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Favorite hen/pullet acting strange please help

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by chickendreams24, Oct 10, 2015.

  1. chickendreams24

    chickendreams24 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I may be an over worried Momma and I hope so. We got chickens this spring for the first time and today when I went to let them out one of our girls was acting a bit off. Her name is Lily and she is a 23-24 week old Isa Brown she layed her first egg at about 16 weeks and I believe has been laying pretty regularly for at least a few weeks. Our main flock consists of 4 Isa browns 5 slw(one of them is a roo) 1 golden Laced sebright 1 bbr oegb roo 2 buff Orpingtons 4 Easter eggers. They range in age from the 23-24 week olds to 20 weeks. We also have a smaller flock that does not sleep with them yet which contains 6 silkies, one self blue oegb pullet and and a barred Cochin bantam pullet. They are going on 18 weeks.

    We have some new chicks from a week ago(got them at a week old) but they are in quarantine in our sun porch and have not had any contact with any of the other birds.

    This morning Lily has been seeking to move very slowly and tenderly. She did eat some scratch and he's pecked her and there at a bit of grass, but she's usually one of the top hens. Her crop was also quite large this morning, now idk if that is because she got a majority of the feed from last night(tides them over until they are let out in the morning as it is put out after they are roosting) I felt of her crop as it seems so huge and it didn't seem to feel badly to me a bit squishy, she's drinking a ton of water, but not solid and I could feel grit and what I'm guessing are grains in there. There is no rotten smell from her mouth. No eye or nose discharge.
    Frankly I'm at a loss she does seem to have perked up a bit but even when the flock ran off to forage she didn't go with. Her butt feathers are a bit dirty but I see no maggots or anything although I don't exactly know what I'm looking for. (Help on how best to clean her butt would be appreciated as it is quite chilly here seemingnd I don't want to make things worse.)

    She was with the flock when I went out to check on her but still not moving very much or quickly. Her crop feels much more full now but I believe most if not all is water. I have not seen her poop. But have not seen any bloody or unhealthy looking stools. She also does not appear to be extending her neck almost like she is just keeping it tucked in. Please help Lily is more like a dog than a chicken she has even tried to follow me into the house and I'm worried about her.
     
  2. Teila

    Teila Bambrook Bantams Premium Member

    Howdy chickendreams24

    As Lily’s crop has not emptied overnight and with the symptoms you describe, she could have sour or impacted crop.

    Here is a link to a good article on prevention and treatment:

    https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/impacted-slow-and-sour-crops-prevention-and-treatments

    I have had a couple of gals develop impacted crop and found that sardines in oil were very effective.

    If she will eat them, try feeding her some sardines in oil and very gently massage the crop.

    Good luck with Lily .. I hope she recovers.
     
  3. chickendreams24

    chickendreams24 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    @Teila
    Thank you for your response but I'm wondering if her crop was full because she had been up and eating before I let them out. I'm not sure I plan on checking her in the morning to find out but mostly I just feel very distressed. Should I wait until tomorrow to find out how she's doing or should I start treating her for sour crop now?
    Any more advice or help would be greatly appreciated. She did trot not a full run but a trot along after the flock this evening and allowed our bantam rooster to attempt to breed her. Should I take this as a good sign and allow her time to work it out on her own or what? I'm hoping she'll be all better tomorrow. We do use acv and there wasn't any hard lumps in her crop this morning it could have been just feed from this morning and grit.
     
  4. chickendreams24

    chickendreams24 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have massaged her crop every time I have checked on her today and she has very much enjoyed it I would say about every hour and a half or two hours
     
  5. Teila

    Teila Bambrook Bantams Premium Member

    Howdy chickendreams24 apologies for the delay in responding .. busy weekend [​IMG]

    How is Lily today?

    I am definitely not an expert on what ails chickens and can only advise from my experience with my gals.

    I do not leave food available overnight but feed them around 05:30am (depending on the season and sunrise time). I do note that even after breakfast, their crops do not really look or feel full until later in the day; after a good day’s grazing.

    I do know that when my gals had impacted crop, they were miserable and definitely not trotting along with the flock so it sounds like Lily is on the improve.

    I also give my gals ACV but have read that it is contraindicated when treating sour crop as it’s adds to the existing acidity.

    Yoghurt is good for balancing the bacterial levels in their crop.

    If you are at all concerned, treating her for sour crop is not going to hurt her.
     
  6. chickendreams24

    chickendreams24 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thanks for checking in again and no problem I understand about being busy its that time of year. I think the crop massages seem to have worked whatever it was loose but who knows. Keeping a close eye on her and will continue to do so. Her crop seemed empty(we didn't leave feed in the coop last night) or very close to possibly a marble sized hunk(will check for it in the morning) And she had a huge appetite today. Eating and drinking well. She also was with the flock today. I would say she was about 80-90% today which is much better than yesterday. Still not quite her normal speed but all I care about is that she's okay. She didn't lay today which has me a bit worried so we may be checking her again tomorrow for any signs of being egg bound but maybe it was just her being under the weather or maybe she needed a day off. Thanks will be coming back with more updates.
     
  7. Teila

    Teila Bambrook Bantams Premium Member

    Excellent news [​IMG]
     
  8. chickendreams24

    chickendreams24 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thank you for rooting for her and I
     

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