Feel Like I'm Failing :-(

TexasMel

In the Brooder
7 Years
Apr 26, 2012
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Let me start off by saying taking care of living creatures has always been my thing. Keeping a plant or a garden alive - yeah not so much. But I've successfully had dogs and they've lived long, healthy lives. I've kept guinea pigs, rabbits, reptiles, amphibians, gerbils and bred and raised dwarf hamsters all successfully.

But these chickens are getting the better of me. I just feel like I'm not doing well with the whole thing.

We have seven Rhode Island Whites - two are clearly roosters and the other five are hens. I estimate their ages to be around 8-9 weeks. They were yellow chicks with just the slightest hint of white feathers at the tips of their wings on March 29th. But the store we got them from didn't know the age at the time.

We are currently waiting on having a large area fenced in specifically for them. It was supposed to be done two weeks ago and we're still waiting. Meanwhile they are in a much smaller area with a small coop. They are crowded in the coop at night but have plenty of room during the day. When we get the larger area fenced we will be providing a much, much bigger coop.

Here are the problems thus far:

Flies - there are a million of them. I'm changing the bedding under the coop every other day, raking the pen area and still I can't keep up with the flies. It's insane.

Poop - Several of the chickens have diarrhea. I'm trying to figure out what's going on and they are all eating and drinking well. But it is very runny poop.

Despite the large pen area, they all stay under the coop the majority of the day. And because of that they look filthy. I know a lot of that is because they are white but the underside of them looks muddy and nasty. Which makes me feel like I'm not taking very good care of them. Though their feathers themselves are shiny and bright on their backs, necks and wings.

I know I need to get rid of one of the roosters, and that would probably help.

I'm on the verge of just finding them new homes before I mess them up anymore. I'm just afraid we're not going to get the bigger area built and ready for another month and I hate that the coop is so crowded now. I may leave the coop open tonight so they can go underneath if wanted (they are inside yet another fence in our backyard and we have three dogs and a large security light so am not horribly worried about predators).

Is there something I can do? What am I doing wrong? At this point I'm finding it more stressful trying to keep them clean, happy and healthy that I'm having a difficult time enjoying them. :-(
 
Sorry you are stressed. DO NOT leave them out at night so they can get under the coop, something will get them even with the dogs the probablity is very great. Try to get the larger coop done so you won't have to worry about it. 2 roos are a bit much for only 5 hens. So I would definitely find a home for one of them. I can't help you with the poop I am not sure about the runny poop. Hopefully some others will chime in. GOOD LUCK
 
Sorry you are stressed. DO NOT leave them out at night so they can get under the coop, something will get them even with the dogs the probablity is very great. Try to get the larger coop done so you won't have to worry about it. 2 roos are a bit much for only 5 hens. So I would definitely find a home for one of them. I can't help you with the poop I am not sure about the runny poop. Hopefully some others will chime in. GOOD LUCK


Thanks for your response! Okay I will definitely leave them in the coop then. They do go in there at night by themselves and obviously feel safe there so I'll just continue to close the door at night.

I will see about finding a home for one of the roos. I'm not sure how to go about that, though, since it seems like most people just want the hens.

Thank you again, I appreciate it!
 
I am no help since I just started with the whole chicken thing and just have 2 one week old chicks. BUT when I think about what all needs to be done and the care of them that is needed it is a bit daunting!! I have been told they are hearty and after they move to the coop there won't be much to do for them but I have read many stories that prove the contrary. I want to give you hugs--because I will probably be you in a few weeks. Maybe you will learn all kinds of great stuff and will be able to help others!! I hope you get some very GREAT help here!!

eta:Oh and if you figure out how to get rid of the roo that is a great bit of info to have too!!! I don't know if mine are boys or girls yet but I dread finding out they are boys--then what do I do???!
 
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I'm not reading anything overly alarming? What's the temperature where you are? Chicken poop gets runny when they are very warm as a way to control their body temperature. If it's hot, you might need to start putting ice in their water a couple times a day or just make sure the water isn't hot. This could also be why they are spending time under the coop. It's cool, they can dust bath, and it's fun!

Also let me tell you right now, a dirty chicken doesn't mean an unhappy chicken. They love to rub in dirt and dust bathe. The problem is that you got a breed that shows every bit of dirt. Chickens are NEVER going to be completely clean and a white chicken is never going to look completely white unless right after a moult.

For flies (they're going to get worse as the temps increase) get some DE or Diatomaceous Earth and sprinkle it in the coop shavings and toss some scratch in for the chickens to mix it up. You should not have to clean it every other day! I clean my poop board once a week and the whole thing twice a year. It stays clean, and as long as i throw down some DE when I do a big clean, or when I clean the poop board the flies are not that bad.

If you don't want a rooster/fertile eggs, definitely rehome the boys as soon as you can.

Sounds like you are just worrying WAY too much. They're chickens, not dogs ;). They love dirt, bugs, and get their poop and other's poop all over them. I'm like you and love all different species and keeping them for their own unique needs. I think the tricky thing with chickens is that it's so easy we tend to over think it.
 
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Can you let them out to fee range? I may be good for them to roam around and enjoy the shade under a tree, eat grass . Put a mister on and mist them a touch be ause of the heat?
 
Post a photo of your setup and see if we can suggest improvements. You can reduce the number of birds as three birds will do just fine.
 
I am no help since I just started with the whole chicken thing and just have 2 one week old chicks. BUT when I think about what all needs to be done and the care of them that is needed it is a bit daunting!! I have been told they are hearty and after they move to the coop there won't be much to do for them but I have read many stories that prove the contrary. I want to give you hugs--because I will probably be you in a few weeks. Maybe you will learn all kinds of great stuff and will be able to help others!! I hope you get some very GREAT help here!!

eta:Oh and if you figure out how to get rid of the roo that is a great bit of info to have too!!! I don't know if mine are boys or girls yet but I dread finding out they are boys--then what do I do???!

Congratulations on your chicks! I appreciate the hugs. I think maybe I'm being overly worried about the chickens. I just feel like they are in a smaller area than they ought to be so I feel bad. But from what people are saying, it sounds like I'm getting too worried. Oh and if I can't find a way to re-home the roo than likely my husband will humanely take care of it. I hate to do that though :-( Hopefully you'll have both females or at least one of each.


I'm not reading anything overly alarming? What's the temperature where you are? Chicken poop gets runny when they are very warm as a way to control their body temperature. If it's hot, you might need to start putting ice in their water a couple times a day or just make sure the water isn't hot. This could also be why they are spending time under the coop. It's cool, they can dust bath, and it's fun!

Also let me tell you right now, a dirty chicken doesn't mean an unhappy chicken. They love to rub in dirt and dust bathe. The problem is that you got a breed that shows every bit of dirt. Chickens are NEVER going to be completely clean and a white chicken is never going to look completely white unless right after a moult.

For flies (they're going to get worse as the temps increase) get some DE or Diatomaceous Earth and sprinkle it in the coop shavings and toss some scratch in for the chickens to mix it up. You should not have to clean it every other day! I clean my poop board once a week and the whole thing twice a year. It stays clean, and as long as i throw down some DE when I do a big clean, or when I clean the poop board the flies are not that bad.

If you don't want a rooster/fertile eggs, definitely rehome the boys as soon as you can.

Sounds like you are just worrying WAY too much. They're chickens, not dogs ;). They love dirt, bugs, and get their poop and other's poop all over them. I'm like you and love all different species and keeping them for their own unique needs. I think the tricky thing with chickens is that it's so easy we tend to over think it.

Thank you SO much! You have made me feel so much better! It's been in the 80s here and there isn't a ton of shade. I've been putting up a lean-to for extra shade in the afternoons so they have more room. They are probably getting so filthy rolling around in the dust, then. I was assuming the runny poop meant they were ill. I'm so relieved to hear that is likely not the case.

Oh and great idea on the DE. I'll look for some of that this weekend. It does seem extreme to have to clean it every other day, even with the area being smaller than I would like it to be. I really hope the DE will do the trick. Thank you!

I bet you're right and I'm over thinking them. I also tend to really research things like crazy before I get into them and I didn't do that with the chickens so I feel a bit out of my element right now. But I am learning. And they are tame and all come to me so I must not be doing a too horribly terrible job, right? LOL I appreciate your encouragement!


Can you let them out to fee range? I may be good for them to roam around and enjoy the shade under a tree, eat grass . Put a mister on and mist them a touch be ause of the heat?

I can't let them free range right now because we have some breaks in the fencing (which will be fixed when the larger pen is built). We also have three dogs and our red heeler is very, very much a bird chaser (she chases ravens and such around the yard) and they share the main yard. I may be able to let them free range for a few hours in the evening but we'll see when the fence is fixed.

Post a photo of your setup and see if we can suggest improvements. You can reduce the number of birds as three birds will do just fine.

Thanks, I will get a picture of the set up tomorrow and post it. I think we may just try to re-home the two roosters and then we'll have the five hens. I've gotten attached to one of the roos as he is the most friendly, follows me everywhere, so I hesitate finding him another home for that reason. :-(
 
Just keep in mind that with only 5 hens, he will probably really work them and make them look a little scrappy. Without a lot of females to spread his love they will be um...overworked? I think it's recommended to keep one rooster per 8-12 hens.

How much room do they have right now? Could you build a cheap and easy to move pen you can move around the yard? We used 2x2s, plastic poultry netting, a few screws and a nail gun and made moveable pens that look like triangular prisms.

Also, if you don't have a poop board that's a VERY easy way to keep it cleaner and make it easier/faster to clean.

I do the exact same thing! I research my brains out, but there's always a learning curve no matter the species ;). I'm currently researching dwarf goats!

If the chickens are happy and healthy, and you're having fun...you're doing it right :p
 

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