Fertile non-Mallard X Muscovy Cross?

Discussion in 'Ducks' started by TemeculaEgg, Nov 16, 2013.

  1. TemeculaEgg

    TemeculaEgg New Egg

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    Hello All,
    I'm new to ducks and this forum. Please help me with something I'm puzzled by. After researching Muscovy crosses/hybrids the general thought is. The Mallard X Muscovy hybrid results in infertile mule duck/ mulard, Although, I have run across a few references to fertile crosses. The Mallard-derivative drake hybrid X Muscovy female produces hybrid females that usually lay small eggs that do not hatch. Males from this cross are sometimes fertile.
    So it's possible? Has this happened to anyone here?
    I cannot find anything about a Non-Mallard X Muscovy cross. Maybe a duck from the genus Cairina? Is there any fertile Muscovy cross at all?
    I have two Muscovy females and love the breed. They are from a local meat duck producer, but are now pampered additions to my organic garden and backyard. They have stolen my heart and I'm very interested in muscovies in general.
    Thank you for any information you can provide.
     
  2. jerryse

    jerryse Overrun With Chickens

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    I have had the hybrid but never any fertile one.The hens lay eggs but nothing develops no matter which breed breeds them.The drakes breed but again nothing.I have heard of exceptions but upon talking to the owners it is always I let them all run together and the hen hatched a clutch of eggs.I am convinced the eggs were not her own that hatched.There is something about the genes that prevents fertility in the 2nd generation attempt.
     
  3. TheBirdMan5

    TheBirdMan5 Out Of The Brooder

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    I do not think muscovies can cross with many thing but maybe if u cross a mallard and Muscovy if u get a male breed it back to a pure female Muscovy and they should not be mules im not a fan of cross breeding at all but I knda know my stuff also I bet u can breed a Muscovy and pekin duck together. from Jay in MA
     
  4. jerryse

    jerryse Overrun With Chickens

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    I forgot to mention my hybrid experience was with mallard based domestic breeds and Muscovy. The crosses are excellent meat birds.
     
  5. TemeculaEgg

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    Thanks for your replies. I kept looking and found something about the almost extinct White winged wood duck. In Asia, when crossed with Muscovy, it produced infertile females, while most of males were fertile. The males were than bred back into the general Muscovy population. I Google searched the White winged wood ducks, and they do look similar to Muscovy. Not as much red carnuckuling ? (sp) Sorry, I'm a newb.
     
  6. learycow

    learycow Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Muscovies CAN and WILL breed with other breeds. However, if they breed with anything other than a muscovy, you will get sterile offspring.

    Muscovy hens bred with mallard derived drakes (pekins, harlequins, swedish, etc) will give you sterile females (hinnies) and males. But the females will lay eggs. These eggs will take the normal length of time to hatch for a muscovy, 32-25 days. The offspring are typically (not all as there are so many different genetic make-ups with these mixes) similar to muscovy where the males are noticably larger than females and females are able to fly. But they quack like a mallard-derived duck.

    Muscovy drakes bred with mallard derived hens will give you sterile males and females and the females won't lay eggs (moulards). These typically fall in between when it comes to hatching and will take anywhere from 30 to 32 days to hatch. Offspring are known to be excellent meat ducks (especially if using a pekin for a mix) and will grow fast and large.
     
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