I spent alot of time last night looking at pictures of people setups. Before I was just looking at design, but not I was thinking runs... I do not have a huge yard at my place, here is a pic of my back yard where the chickens are going to go. I was thinking possibly a 3'x8' or 4'x8' "playhouse" style coop/run. I was going to do a coop/run behind my garage (see my other thread), but my wife changed her mind and is against that idea now. But what I got to thinking about is, they will not be free range chickens, I have neighbors with cats that end up in my yard all the time, I only have a 48" tall fence all the way around my property so maybe even a chicken could possibly flap over that? Really what I asking, it is still worth it if your chickens can not free-range, and they are caged up 100% of the time. I dont want to be cruel, but maybe they are fine with being caged, as long as they get attention?