free ranging in the suburbs

Discussion in 'Managing Your Flock' started by missychicky, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. missychicky

    missychicky Songster

    Jun 10, 2009
    Milwuakie. OR
    I am trying to convince my parents that letting my chickens free range is ok in the suburbs. I really want them to be free range but I don't know If it's really best. What are the pro's and cons? What problems and benefits does it give?
  2. vstoltzfus

    vstoltzfus Songster

    Aug 10, 2009
    Lancaster County, PA
    Your top priority is keeping them safe, and on your property. So you should have a fence to keep them in, and predators out. You should also only let them out when you are home to watch them. I have 3 acres and let my 21 hens out about 2 hours before sundown so they can scratch around. Two hours is long enough for them to enjoy themselves, but not so long that they get into trouble. And I only let them out when I'm home. The biggest benefit, in my mind, is that they can eat the plants of their choosing, find new bugs, and just run around. The downside is you are increasing the chances that a predator will get them.
  3. Heathercp

    Heathercp Songster

    Jul 23, 2008
    Durham, NC
    I live in the suburbs on a large lot and my Australorps free range every day from sunup to sundown.

    We built an 8' fence to keep the deer and dogs out and the chickens in. Although the chickens weren't flying over the 4' fence that was there before we built the new one, stray dogs would have easily cleared the fence. Dogs are likely to be out and about at all hours of the day and night. As far as predators go, dogs are the ones who have the most potential to successfully attack my flock.

    We live in a heavily wooded area that abuts some small forest tracts and we've seen both raccoons and foxes in our yard. That being said, both of these predators are typically nocturnal hunters. That doesn't mean that they'd never come to my yard for a mid-day snack, but it's not something that I'm overly concerned about. It's possible that they could attack my hens, but not probable. Aerial predators are also a consideration. I frequently see birds of prey flying above my house, and I see how the chickens react. When they see a dark silhouette overhead they freeze and make a very distinctive trilling sound. Even though I've seen these predators, I don't worry about them because our lot is so heavily wooded, the chickens have lots of places to hide and landing and takeoff would be difficult for one of these birds of prey. Someday I may be eating crow for saying that chicken hawks aren't likely to go after my birds, but for now, I just don't see the danger as imminent.

    The advantages to free ranging are numerous. No more Frontline for my cats because there are no fleas or ticks left in our yard. [​IMG] Also no more snakes. My coop and run are empty during the day except when a hen goes in to lay an egg, so there's less poop build up than there would be if the birds were cooped up during the day. What this means for me is that I don't have to clean out the coop. I stir the shavings and that's it. The nighttime poop dries out and that's that. No smell at all. I use DE with my shavings and don't have a fly problem in the coop. Maybe the DE plays a role in this. Maybe I've got naturally occurring fly predators in my "not cleaned out" coop. Who knows. All I know is I haven't got flies in the coop.

    In addition to providing protection from aerial predators, the trees cast lots of shade. It gets pretty darn hot here in NC, but my birds can always seek out the coolest spot. The coop is shaded almost all day, but it's still always somewhat warmer than the ambient temperature.

    My chickens also don't seem to eat much feed. They spend all day scratching around for beetles, worms, other creepy-crawlies, and sprouts. I say sprouts because the weeds don't really have a chance to grow into little plants. The chickens find them before they break the surface of the earth and eat them.

    I do have an enclosed and completely predator proof run attached to my coop, but the girls really don't enjoy being locked up in it, and they let me know it. Me and all the neighbors, too. Mine make much more noise when they're locked up. Perhaps this would be different if they'd never been able to roam freely. I'll never know because I'll never raise chickens that can't roam freely. I wouldn't enjoy having them if they were relegated to just 120 sq.ft. rather than the whole back yard.

    You know, there are pluses and minuses to everything. Sure, a desperate fox could show up during the day and kill one or more of my chickens. But if I kept them in a smaller enclosure, I could have issues with feather picking and bullying like so many other people who post on this forum. I might see more disease in my flock if they were kept in close quarters. And I'd surely have lots more work trying to manage the litter and run. Maybe it sounds heartless, but I'm willing to take the small risk that a predator might get my chickens if it means that I can let them do what chickens do.

    I've spent lots of time reading through the predator threads and it's heartbreaking, I'm sure, when you come home to a massacre. But, having watched my chickens roaming the yard day in and day out, I'd be heartbroken if I had to keep them penned in a run. Everyone's risk tolerance is different, as is everyone's backyard setup. This is what works for me (and what wouldn't.) I hope my two cents helps.

    Good luck.
  4. GardeNerd

    GardeNerd Songster

    Problems with free ranging in a suburban yard:

    Droppings- The chickens poop on the patio, outdoor furniture, or driveway if they have access to those areas in a suburban yard.
    Scratching- They can damage tender plants and kick mulch out of garden beds. If anyone is a gardener in your family, they might be really upset about what hens can do to the flower beds if they don't make adjustments to prevent damage.
    Predators- I live in an urban city of a half million people. I lost a hen to a red tailed hawk while it was free ranging in the backyard. My neighbor across the street didn't get home until after dark one night and neglected to ask me to close them in because she didn't think they would be that late. By the time she went to close the chickens in at 9:30, it appeared a raccoon had got to one earlier.
    Maintence - More time spent cleaning up/ hosing down droppings so none of the kids or their friends step in chicken poop in the yard and then tracks it in the house.

    I still let mine free range for similar reasons listed by Heathercp.
  5. goldeneggtees

    goldeneggtees Fluffy Butt Nut

    Mar 11, 2009
    Long Island, NY
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  6. YolandaT

    YolandaT In the Brooder

    May 10, 2010
    Austin, TX
    Mine aren't old enough yet but what I plan to do is, when I get home at 6:30 I'll let them out, so that's 1-3 hours a day depending on the season. I am keeping mine in the coop until they are sure that's where they go at night, they are only 6-7 weeks old so I won't start doing this for another month or so.

    Here's a fact for your argument: Free range chickens eggs have half the cholesterol of chicks fed only feed, so that means you can eat twice as many eggs! [​IMG]
  7. Dorte

    Dorte Songster

    Apr 27, 2010
    Quote:Not that I don't take your word for it, but do you have a reference for that? I might need it later [​IMG]
  8. GardeNerd

    GardeNerd Songster

    Quote:Not that I don't take your word for it, but do you have a reference for that? I might need it later [​IMG]

    I don't know about half the cholesterol, but motherearth news did some reach on the difference between eggs from confined and range fed hens a while back. It has continued to influence my decision as to why I let mine free range. They reported a third less cholesterol in pastured eggs.
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2010
  9. EggsForIHOP

    EggsForIHOP Songster

    Apr 18, 2010
    I saw this and the first thing I thought was "Take caution". My sister lives in the 'burbs - had a little flock of four layers...clipped wings, nice fencing, let them free range all day. But sadly, egg production was cut by 25% before they even layed one egg! One managed to escape the yard and the neighbors dog had a chicken lunch. They did try to do right by her though, were very apologetic and it wasn't their fault really. So just be careful...hers still get to free range some, but not like before. Chickens just don't understand that sometimes greener grass comes with dangerous consequences..
  10. PhlyinPheBee

    PhlyinPheBee Poodles, Chicken, Goats--OH MY!!

    Mar 11, 2009
    Northeast Louisiana
    I let my girls out for a couple of hours 3-4 days a week. I let them out couple of hours before time for roosting and they come home and go to bed. I do check on them several times during that time and do not let them get over to the neighbor's yard.

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