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Discussion in 'What Breed Or Gender is This?' started by zaapoole, May 30, 2016.
They are Appenzellers silver and gold and two Welsummers
And then the second welsummer:
My instincts suspect that the Welsummers are pullets, but as to the Spitz, I would have to see pictures of their "pimples." Those are the two little points that make up their comb.
Thanks very much! Unfortunately I think I already have one rooster so I'm hoping the appenzellers are both pullets
I tried to get a better image but sorry f not [VIDEO]
I think you may have 2 boy Welsummers, I've added pictures for comparison.
First row is a female chick, 3 weeks
Second row is a male chick, 3 weeks
Third row is male/female together as of today at 8 weeks
Here's a little girl Welsummer at 3 weeks- notice the neck feathers are salmon colored and she's got a really clear "mask" over the eye.
Here's a little boy Welsummer, also 3 weeks old- note the red/black chest feathers and the very faint "mask" around the eyes... but red/black feathers are the determinant factor as I understand it.
And here they are today, a little over 8 weeks
Pullet is on top, roo is on bottom
1st: Pullet- she still has those salmon colored neck/chest feathers, 2nd: Cockerel: Much redder, comb, wattles red
The Welsummers are definitely female. No black on the chest at all. The Appenzellers need a few more weeks.
I'm on the fence about the Welsummers, but I'm leaning towards cockerels on both... first has pink wattles starting and at 4 weeks that's a bit early for a pullet... second has very dark red chest feathers, and I've seen many hatchery Welsummer cockerels just have dark red instead of black chests...
The Appenzwllers I have no clue about...
Any updated photos?
Thanks for the replies this is an update at just under six weeks. I think the appenzellers are cockerels - I will put pictures of the silver just to confirm but the gold one started trying to crow this morning so that's a definite!
The first welsummer has more of a brown chest whereas the second one has a salmon coloured chest
The first Welsummer looks like a cockerel as far as color goes, but yet the comb isn't developed and pink yet. I'm not an expert, so I don't really know what to think. The Spitz is definitely a cockerel, and a very handsome one! My girls' wattles are still flat and faintly pink at about 13 weeks.
I love the Spitz' eyes! So big and expressive!
Still leaning towards boy on the first Welsummer too, though one of our pullets *did* have more of a reddish chest and a darker body all around at this age, so it's not impossible, just neither of our girls had that level of comb or wattle development that early ...-- the other one seems to have pullet coloring despite the comb and wattle development.
Maybe we've just got radically different lines of Welsummers.
Here's our reddish, darker Welsummer pullet at 6 weeks (left) next to our Welsummer cockerel at 6 weeks (right)