Gender cues in newly hatched Buff Orps?

Discussion in 'What Breed Or Gender is This?' started by arlee453, Dec 22, 2007.

  1. arlee453

    arlee453 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Aug 13, 2007
    near Charlotte NC
    Are there any gender cues for Buff Orps when newly hatched?

    Some of my guys have a dark streak on their heads, and others don't. Plus, some of them are a darker color (more reddish) and others are more yellowish.

    Do either of these (or something else) help you determine gender, or do I have to wait a while to see if combs/wattles develop early?...

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  2. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    An old sexing document I found said that the ones with the dark stripe of color down the center of the head are usually female. It worked on my last batch, but I only had three, so not a huge sampling to go by. Here is that text:
    RHODE ISLAND REDS
    Byerly and Quinn (1936) report that there is some sex difference
    in the down of Rhode Island Red chicks. The females
    tend to show spots or stripes of darker color in the down on the
    head and back. By separating the chicks into groups with and
    without spots or stripes sex was identified with 82 percent
    accuracy.

    The following came from another sexing document I have saved:
    The Rhode Island Red and New Hampshire breeds
    can be sexed by wing color at hatching, although the
    accuracy is reduced by normal color variations. Male
    chicks have a white spot in the down over the wing web.
    This spot is lost when the chick down is shed and
    replaced with second generation feathers.​
     
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  3. hinkjc

    hinkjc Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    I've never heard of buff orps having stripes on them. I also have yet to find a way to sex them easily. The only one chick I could sex easily crowed at two days old. The rest I wait until about 3-5 weeks until I am sure. Even 3 weeks can be early for slow maturing cockerels.

    Jody
     
  4. msbliss

    msbliss Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Jody, the roo crowed at 2 days old!? [​IMG] How cute that must have been!
     
  5. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    What is wrong with me today?! I read RIR, not Buff Orp, for some weird reason! Geez. Not enough coffee!!!
    Jody, the RIRs from Julie in AL I hatched, at least the girls, even the RIR/Buff Orp cross, had a thin darkish stripe straight down the middle of the head. It was something I'd have missed if I hadn't been looking for it after reading that. But, as the article said, that's not accurate all the time. BUT, a pure Buff Orp won't have that, I'm sure! My two didn't that I recall.

    SORRY! Code Delete me today, folks!
     
  6. hinkjc

    hinkjc Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    LOL...Cyn, you're ok and I completely understood that you thought the OP meant RIR. But the OP also said something about a dark streak on the chicks, which is what I was really referring to. I have never seen that. It could be they will be a bit dark or dirty buff. But only time will tell..I wouldn't consider it a way to sex them. Of course, you could mark them and find out.

    Jody
     
  7. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    I think I'll stop talking now. PUULLEEEZE, ignore me today! I'm not usually this clueless....am I? [​IMG] Going to look at my chick pics of Sunny and Ginger now....
    **Nope, no stripes on the Buff Orps, but in this pic, you can plainly see the stripe on one of my three RIR girls:
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  8. peeps7

    peeps7 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    It's alright Cynthia, you can sex chicks better than most people. [​IMG]
     
  9. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    I wouldn't say that, not lately. I sold a pullet I thought was a cockerel recently....[​IMG]
     
  10. peeps7

    peeps7 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Aug 26, 2007
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    Hey, if I have a sexing question you'll still be the first one I go to. [​IMG]
     

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