genetically, how do you get a golden laced cochin?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by osukrazykate, Dec 8, 2009.

  1. osukrazykate

    osukrazykate Chillin' With My Peeps

    Genetically, I am not sure how a Golden Laced Cochins are created. Is it something to do with a Red/Buff on a black or vice versa?
  2. blackdotte

    blackdotte Chillin' With My Peeps

    Nov 18, 2008
    You need to stay away from a Wheaten Based Buff, a Brown based Buff Columbian (as in Buff Columbian Wyandotte) would be best. Then mated to a Gold Laced Wyandotte, the resulting F1 birds bred together, select the best marked single,lightest coloured, comb birds and go from there.
  3. osukrazykate

    osukrazykate Chillin' With My Peeps

    So does that mean that most Golden Laced (talking in Cochins) have a backing of buff columbian?
  4. tadkerson

    tadkerson Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 19, 2008
    Quote:Gold laced cochin have genes that make the secondary color pattern called single lacing.

    The base color of the cochin is determined by two genes the brown gene (eb) and the gold gene (s+). These two genes make the female birds have a dark stippled reddish color. The males will have the typical black breasted red color.

    Add the columbian gene (Co) and almost all of the black stippling is removed from the body of the female and the reddish color is changed to a buff color. In the males, the breast is cleared of the black color leaving a buff/red color. The red in the male's pyle region (head,neck and saddle hackles and back) is reduced to a lighter red color.

    Adding the melanotic gene (Ml) will cause the pyle region of the male to become black and the female will add black to the head, neck hackles and back.

    Adding the pattern gene (Pg) to the bird will cause the black ( due to melanotic) to move to the edge of the feather forming a lace. The columbian gene will clear any black from the rest of the feather. So, you wind up with a single lace on a buff feather.

    Last edited: Dec 8, 2009
  5. michickenwrangler

    michickenwrangler To Finish Is To Win

    Jun 8, 2008
    NE Michigan
    There was an article in Practical Poultry about a year ago. I can't recall the exact issue (RIR was the featured breed that month) about coloring. There was even a "family tree" of different breeds and colors which resulted in the gold-laced cochin
  6. osukrazykate

    osukrazykate Chillin' With My Peeps

    Oh Thank you very much. That was the kind of details I was looking for Tim. I appreciate your help.
  7. kathyinmo

    kathyinmo Nothing In Moderation

    Are they rare? Recently, I toured a poultry breeder's facility, and he had some. They were a bit expensive, more than usual anyway. He said they were rare. Here are some pictures (not very good) that I took ....




  8. osukrazykate

    osukrazykate Chillin' With My Peeps

    I am not sure if they are rare or not. I recently lost my whole flock except one MF D'Uccle. A very kind lady gave me 4 very large GL Cochins. I beleive they might be males from when looking at pics such as yours, but I think they are beautiful even if they are....roos (could say something really funny here, but decided to keep it clean). So I am looking to try and get some hens to go with them, but I am thinking of using them as project birds too. So I was really interested in their genetical make-up.
  9. kennedyscochins

    kennedyscochins Chillin' With My Peeps

    Sep 1, 2009
    Big Clifty
    From what I have researched, cochins are a rare breed in general. The gold laced cochins seem to be harder to find than the others. I ordered mine from ideal poultry (but be careful, most of their cochins aren't that pretty). Most other hatcheries I have looked into don't even offer gold laced cochins. You can probably find them from an individual breeder, but they will probably be very expensive. The gold laced cochin was the one that got me to make my entire flock cochins (except for one EE and one mille).
  10. kathyinmo

    kathyinmo Nothing In Moderation

    The breeder, where I toured, is Thom Dean, in Springfield, Missouri. He sells eggs and chicks.

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