Genetics question - Olive Eggers

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Jashdon, Sep 17, 2008.

  1. Jashdon

    Jashdon Songster

    Mar 29, 2008
    Snohomish, WA
    I read in another post that you need to start with a rooster that carries 2 blue egg genes such as a pure Ameraucana rooster and cross with a hen that lays dark brown eggs. Is it true that the rooster needs to be the one carrying the blue egg gene or will it also work by crossing a hen that lays blue eggs with a rooster carrying a dark brown egg gene?

    I was thinking about trying this next spring but I want to make sure I have it right before I do.
  2. kinnip

    kinnip Songster

    Feb 24, 2008
    Carrollton, GA
    Should work either way.
  3. drom

    drom Songster

    Jun 12, 2008
    I didn't know that. You might want to ask Marans Guy. He seems to know. He is using a Marans Rooster with Ameraucana Hen I think, but I didn't think it mattered which way you crossed them. I didn't know the Ameraucanas had to be carrying 2 genes for blue
  4. Jashdon

    Jashdon Songster

    Mar 29, 2008
    Snohomish, WA
    yeah, I have no idea. I was just reading that in another post.

    Quote:I hope it works with a Marans roo and an EE hen because that is the combo we have now. Thanks for the tip, i'll ask Marans Guy.
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2008
  5. tadkerson

    tadkerson Songster

    Jul 19, 2008
    The cross will work either way (as Kinnip stated).

  6. KrisRose

    KrisRose Songster

    Mar 9, 2007
    Davison, MI.
    Crossed my PR roo with EE'S. Both hens are green egg layers.
  7. Momo

    Momo Songster

    Mar 16, 2008
    Nelson BC
    Yes, it will work either way. An eggshell can have one of two base colours: white or blue. The gene for blue eggs is dominant over the gene for white eggs. The brown colour is due to any number of other genes and is basically a brown coating over top of the underlying eggshell colour. So if you breed a blue egg layer to a brown egg layer, you will get a blue egg with a brown coating and the egg will look sort of olive green. If the hen just adds a pale brown coating (e.g. if you cross with a breed that lays beige eggs) it will be a lighter green or teal colour.

    If you're breeding to a hen or rooster that carries two copies of the blue egg gene (homozygous for that trait), then all of the progeny will receive one of those genes and because blue is dominant over white they will all lay blue eggshells. But if the blue egg parent is heterozygous (one blue gene and one white gene) and you breed to a white eggshell chicken (e.g. either white or brown which is actually white with a brown coating), then half of the babies would get the blue eggshell gene (they would be heterozygous for that trait) and half would get the white eggshell gene (and would be homozygous for that trait).

    Most true Ameraucanas are homozygous for blue eggshells but the odd beige egg layer does crop up. Many EEs are homozygous too but many are heterozygous and some lack the blue gene altogether.

    Bottom line: if a chicken lays blue eggs then you know it carries at least one blue eggshell gene, but you won't know whether it carries two (although a purebred almost certainly will).
  8. Jashdon

    Jashdon Songster

    Mar 29, 2008
    Snohomish, WA
    Great! Thanks for the info.

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