Well I think we have decided giving up on the turkeys! We started out with 60 BB white and 60+ Blue slate this year after I hatched some of the blue slates and we ordered (40 blue slates and the BBW). We are now down to maybe 15 slates and 20 BBW. They ahve been dropping like flies so this weekend they are going to become dinner Its sad for the BBW but at the rate we are losing them they will all be dead by Christmas! Are turkeys this hard to raise? This is our second year having them and all we had last year live were 6 Bourbon reds and about 10 blue slates out of 20/20 and then 5 BBW out of 40+. They have fresh clean water, heat and medicated food with high protien. I do have severl Blue Slate Toms that I would like to trade for some hens if anyone has any.. We are going to keep the Blue slate hen and 3 or 4 toms but I know I don't have enough hens.