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Can any one give my a little info on goats. I know that there is milking goats so they are known to produce more milk than others but I would assume they would always have to have a kid before hand right? And if this is true how are you not overrun with goats? I don't know a thing about goats but that they eat everything and try to get out of fences so I probably sound really stupid right now
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but gotta learn at some point right?

I know there is backyard herds but I know that many people have goats on here and was just wanting some basic info. I would love to have two or three of them but I just don't know if it's in the cards. Still curious though so please goat lovers, type away!!
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Hi Henny, you are smart looking for some information Before you get goats!

They live on the average 15 years, are you at a place in your life you can take on that commitment?
Do you have acreage? With brambles and brush? Goats are browsers, preferring things to eat that are knee to sky high. If you have lawn type acreage you'd be better off looking at sheep, they graze low stuff.

Goats DON'T DON'T DON'T eat anything and everything. They will TRY most things but are choosy about what they will eat, same as other animals. One of my goats loves fruit loops, the other won't touch them for a simple example.

Most of the landscaping plants in your yard will sicken or kill goats. Rhodies in particular...one leaf! So don't plan on feeding them yard clippings, although they do love rose clippings, big thorns and all.

They need worm and parasite shots kept up to date. They need their feet trimmed. It is doable if you start on them as babies, it takes 10 big men if you get an adult who isn't used to being held/handled.


Rams stink of musk which lady goats love and you won't.

If I remember my farm childhood correctly, if you continue to milk a goat or cow every day they will continue to produce milk, but you'd need to buy a milker to start with if milk was what you are going for. You will always be tied to home with milking chores...It is very painful for a producing milker to not be milked regularly and it doesn't take long for them to quit producing.
Go to a health food store and buy some goat milk and cheese, see if you even like it.

We have withers, or neutered males. They always smell good and they love to be brushed with curry combs, and rub themselves up and down the steel street sweeper brush we got for them. They make berries not giant cow pies, and you can fall down in berries and not get dirty...much
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Goats HATE rain, but don't mind ice/snow. If it is freezing you need to take them hot water several times a day. Icy water will make for pink snow rather than yellow. Their urinary track is fairly delicate.
They Hate soiled water, plan on cleaning water buckets and running fresh water daily.

The farm stores have great magazines on goats, and beginners books.
Hope some of this has helped.

edited to add: we used regular field fencing with posts at 8'. Goats love to climb fences, they just like to be tall and stretch their necks...they really broke them down. So when we built our second paddock we used horse fencing and posts at 6'. Billion times better although they still sort of climb it because with cloven hoves they can get a bit of purchase even with just 2" grid spacing.
 
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Go to www.adga.org. They will have some free information. Also try caprinesupply.com. It is a supply catalog but there is a wealth of information there. Your agricultural extension office should have some stuff too. Yes, goats, like all mammals, have to give birth before they produce milk.
 
http://www.fiascofarm.com/ all you need to know is right there.
I love my goats, and yes you need to breed every year to get milk. You sell the babies. You can either keep a stud (I wouldn't recommend stinky and mean) or find stud services in your area. Babies can either be separated from their momma and bottle fed, or you can let mom raise them and share the milk with baby. There is lots and LOTS to research about goats, so comb this website. I did and was well prepared for goats when I got them.
 
Normally, I don't post. However, there have been a couple of statements made here that I have to address because subjective information is being presented as factual information. I have to respectfully disagree or question some of these statements. This thread paints a pretty negative picture of some pretty awesome animals.

Male goats are called Bucks not Rams or even Studs. They do not stink to high heaven all year long. And I can't even imagine that even the largest/meanest goat would take 10 men to trim it's hoofs - are you kidding me? Ten Men? Also, a first time doe will often give birth to singles. Single births can also run in families. I have a doe that has twins every other year. In between times she always has a single and she is now Five. Her Mother, who is now 8...did the exact same thing.

Most of the information posted up until this time is correct...some is not! If it were, it would be a wonder that anyone would ever keep or even WANT to keep goats. How in the world do horns keep Angora goats cool between shearings? What? All of my long haired goats are disbudded, meaning no horns, I haven't lost one to heat exhaustion yet - my goats and I must be very lucky!

OP - good luck with your information gathering - I hope that someday you decide goats would be fun - because they are! They are hardy, wonderful creatures!
 
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Normally, I don't post. However, there have been a couple of statements made here that I have to address because subjective information is being presented as factual information. I have to respectfully disagree or question some of these statements. This thread paints a pretty negative picture of some pretty awesome animals.

Male goats are called Bucks not Rams or even Studs. They do not stink to high heaven all year long. And I can't even imagine that even the largest/meanest goat would take 10 men to trim it's hoofs - are you kidding me? Ten Men? Also, a first time doe will often give birth to singles. Single births can also run in families. I have a doe that has twins every other year. In between times she always has a single and she is now Five. Her Mother, who is now 8...did the exact same thing.

Most of the information posted up until this time is correct...some is not! If it were, it would be a wonder that anyone would ever keep or even WANT to keep goats. How in the world do horns keep Angora goats cool between shearings? What? All of my long haired goats are disbudded, meaning no horns, I haven't lost one to heat exhaustion yet - my goats and I must be very lucky!

OP - good luck with your information gathering - I hope that someday you decide goats would be fun - because they are! They are hardy, wonderful creatures!

I don't know what kind of long-haired goats you have, but if you talk to a responsible angora breeder, they will explain to you that the horns have extensive capillary systems and help cool the animal. All the breeders I have talked to will not sell disbudded angora goats. In short haired animals it is not so much an issue, but in my part of the country, Angoras must be sheared twice a year, and even so their hair grows so quickly that it holds in a great deal of heat. Here's an Angora website, you will see in the pictures that all the adult animals have horns: http://www.angoragoat.com/


Melissa
 
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allthings'g, 10 men was tongue in cheek, but it is a good job for two strong men.
I absolutely love our goats, they are wonderful animals, but like any animal they and their owners adjust better when some research has been done before hand. They aren't for everyone.

Thank you for adding your helpful information. It's what makes forums a great place to be.
 

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