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Golden laced and silver laced wyandotte

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by CynthiaM, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. CynthiaM

    CynthiaM Out Of The Brooder

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    I seem to be having a mountain of questions these days.

    I have golden laced wyandotte pullets and cockerals and one silver laced wyandotte. Love both colours. Some questions follow:

    1) What colour would the offspring of golden laced rooster with silver laced hen be, is it a recognized colour amongst the wyandotte breed?

    2) What would a black jersey giant rooster with australorpe hen be, I only had one jersey giant cockeral hatch and one astralorpe pullet hatch in the incubator. Probably a good meat bird, good laying hens, right?

    3) My light brahma rooster mated with a Rhode island red. The resulting chicks are all cockerals and are very brahma like, feathered legs, white with grey and gold flecked feathers, single comb. Why the brahma look alike? Thought the genes criss crossed, I am wondering why the chicks are not brown like the RIR? Getting more and more confused about genetics here.

    I have ordered that book that I keep hearing is a great one, can't recall the name, but it is on order now. Going to study throughout the winter while all my honeybees take their break too, smiling. Have a wonderful day, health.
     
  2. Krys109uk

    Krys109uk Chillin' With My Peeps

    Hello Cynthia. [​IMG]

    1. (Assuming the silver laced hen does not carry a gene called dilute (I've read that some silvers do).
    Gold laced male over silver laced hen would give gold laced pullets & males carrying one silver & one gold gene & possibly other autosomal red type genes. ....which would look rather messy.

    2. I expect these would be big black birds. I don't know ow well the Jersey Giants lay.

    3.The reason most of the offspring from your light brahma were like him is that more of his genes are dominant genes.

    Lucky you, having access to lots of delicious fresh honey.[​IMG]
     
  3. Goose and Fig

    Goose and Fig Grateful Geese

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    I've wanted to breed my Australorp to a JG too. Someone had a blue roo for sale- almost got it! I bet they'd be huge layers and maybe even a little broody like the Australorp. Sounds like a good cross.
     
  4. CelticMoon1

    CelticMoon1 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Finally someone with the same question I have, I've tried it several places and no one seems to have a clue..

    I have SLW pullets & rooster, and am getting a GLW roo chicken tomorrow.. I want to breed them next year and get GLW pullets (which I used to have, have only 2 left and they're old - and both colors are hard to come by here). So I HOPE that my theory, which coincides with what has been answered here already, proves true.. According to this color calculator it is correct:
    http://home.hetnet.nl/~h.meijers69/kruising.html

    However, I've also heard that some SLW might carry a Dilute gene, which would result in Black Laced Yellow/Lemons if mated with a GLW.. Which I don't think is a recognised color, though they might be cool [​IMG]

    Now, I also have two white wyandotte pullets, from separate hatchings (different SLW roosters) of pure SLW eggs - I am thinking of including them in the hatching from the GLW rooster to see the results as I am curious as to HOW the whites have cropped up (there were 2 white roo chickens as well in the last one). Anyone experienced whites appearing like this before?
     
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  5. CynthiaM

    CynthiaM Out Of The Brooder

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    I would love to hear why you got whites. Someone MUST know.
     
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  6. azelgin

    azelgin Chillin' With My Peeps

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    On your Wyandotte question, here's what I got.
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    The full grown cockerels look like SLWs, with a slight bronze cast. The pullets look like GLWs, but the colors are not as intense as my true GLWs. Sex of the chicks can be easily distinguished at about one week of age.
     
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  7. CelticMoon1

    CelticMoon1 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    azelgin: [​IMG] your roo!! Hope my GLW will turn out as good!! Your cockerels sound like they are exactly as the theory dictates - according to the theory, you will get both GLW and SLW pullets no matter what hens you mate them to, and the you will get roo chickens both the color of the hen and the color of the rooster.. [​IMG] As to intensity of color on the GLW pullets, they could easily be bred back with GLW roos I think. I think this sounds like an excellent way to bring new blood into either your SLW or GLW line [​IMG]

    CynthiaM: Yes the whites are quite a mystery. . First batch yielded only one pullet, this year's yielded 1 pullet 2 roos. Percentagewise it looks like they could come from the same mother (as we hathced more eggs this year). I have asked around and noone else has been able to tell me how the whites appeared - though I've read somewhere that the true white wyandottes originated as SLW sports..

    ETA: See Krys' response below.
     
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  8. Krys109uk

    Krys109uk Chillin' With My Peeps

    I also have two white wyandotte pullets, from separate hatchings (different SLW roosters) of pure SLW eggs

    It is likely that the birds are carrying recessive white (c).

    I've also heard that some SLW might carry a Dilute gene, which would result in Black Laced Yellow/Lemons if mated with a GLW.. Which I don't think is a recognised color, though they might be cool.

    I think lemon laced wyandottes are, usually, dilute (Di) & cream (ig).​
     
  9. CelticMoon1

    CelticMoon1 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:It is likely that the birds are carrying recessive white (c).

    I realise it's been a while since this post but do you have an idea as to genotype in my white sports? Would the parents both be C+/c, and the whites c/c?

    What threw me was that the roos to the different hatchings were from completely different stock, but if recessive white carriers are normal in SLW, then that certainly explains it.
     
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  10. azelgin

    azelgin Chillin' With My Peeps

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    U thought I'd post a picture of one of my cockerels from the GLW rooster X SLW hen all grown up. He ended up being larger and having better confirmation that either parent.

    [​IMG]
     
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