These birds are from two different breeders, 4 pullets, 4 roos. One of the roos is rumpless, but otherwise very nice looking, with a great disposition. Two of the girls are laying, but the others are October hatches and ready to lay any minute. They are very good foragers and the boys have a keen lookout instinct. Buyer pays actual shipping plus boxes or comes to claim them- I'll meet within an hour's drive. I do have 2 large Horizon boxes I can provide for $20 each (my cost) but I'll need more boxes if winner wants them shipped. These pics are about a 6 weeks old, and the black feathering has a very distinct line in most of the birds now, with shiny saddle and hackle feathers covering the fluff very nicely.