got a bee bee gun today with some pointy shot. i will try this for a full week in the evenings. then i'll get a gun for the goat predators. also, got some geese who i know can be attacked by dogs but who also from what i udnerstand put up quite a squawk. so it wont hurt anyway. and maybe it will even help. i've never shot anything in my entire life. so, this is a big step for me, even bbs.