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Discussion in 'Random Ramblings' started by KristyHall, Jun 10, 2011.

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  1. KristyHall

    KristyHall Crowing

    Jan 27, 2011
    North Alabama
    Alabama has had a huge increase in immigrants (both legal and non). In the past few years immigration rate shave rose 150 percent (according to the statistics read on a local news station) because of our job availability and large agricultural industry.

    SO now Alabama is tying to pass an immigration law that is tougher than Arizona's. So tough part of the law requires schools to check if their students are hear legally.

    " sorry Little Amy your parents are illegal so you don't get an education"

    While I can see all sides on this... getting children involved always bothers me.

    here is an article on it


    Alabama's illegal immigration law tougher than Arizona's
    Published: Friday, June 10, 2011, 6:20 AM Updated: Friday, June 10, 2011, 7:19 AM
    By The Associated Press

    Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley sAlabama Gov. Robert Bentley is flanked by Sen. Scott Beason, R-Gardendale, left, and Micky Hammon, R-Decatur, right, as he speaks before signing into law what critics and supporters are calling the strongest bill in the nation cracking down on illegal immigration, on Thursday June 9, 2011 at the state Capitol in Montgomery, Ala. The bill allows police to arrest anyone suspected of being an illegal immigrant if they're stopped for any other reason. It also requires public schools to determine students' immigration status and makes it a crime to knowingly give an illegal immigrant a ride. (AP Photo/Montgomery Advertiser, Mickey Welsh)

    MONTGOMERY, Alabama — Alabama schools will soon have to check if students are in the country legally and people stopped for any reason could be arrested on suspicion of immigration violations under a sweeping law being called the nation's most restrictive against illegal immigration.
    Advocacy groups promised to challenge the sweeping measure signed by Gov. Robert Bentley on Thursday, which they call even more severe than the one in Arizona that is being challenged in court.
    In addition, it requires all businesses to check the legal status of workers using a federal system called E-Verify and makes it a crime to knowingly give an illegal immigrant a ride.
    "It is clearly unconstitutional. It's mean-spirited, racist, and we think a court will enjoin it," said Mary Bauer, legal director for the Southern Poverty Law Center.
    It takes effect Sept. 1.

    Bentley expressed confidence it would withstand any legal challenges.
    "We have a real problem with illegal immigration in this country," he said. "I campaigned for the toughest immigration laws, and I'm proud of the Legislature for working tirelessly to create the strongest immigration bill in the country."
    Alabama has an estimated 120,000 illegal immigrants, a nearly fivefold increase from a decade ago, according to the Pew Hispanic Center. Many of them are believed to be working on farms, at chicken processing plants and in construction.
    One of the legislation's sponsors, GOP Sen. Scott Beason, said it would help the unemployed by preventing illegal immigrants from getting jobs in the state. Alabama's unemployment rate stood at 9.3 percent in April, the most recent figure available.
    "This will put thousands of Alabamians back in the work force," Beason said.
    The Alabama Business Council has not taken a public stand on the law. In neighboring Georgia, some farmers and business owners warned that a crackdown passed recently in that state would make it more difficult to hire the laborers they rely on — many of whom are illegal immigrants.
    The Alabama measure instantly puts the state at the forefront of the immigration debate. Organizations such as the American Civil Liberties Union and the Southern Poverty Law Center agreed that it is the nation's toughest crackdown on illegal immigration.
    Linton Joaquin, general counsel for the National Immigration Law Center in Los Angeles, said the Alabama law covers all aspects of an immigrant's life.

    "It is a sweeping attack on immigrants and people of color in general. It adds restrictions on education, housing and other areas. It is a very broad attack," Joaquin said.
    Among other things, the law makes it a crime for landlords to knowingly rent to an illegal immigrant.
    Another provision makes it a crime to transport a known illegal immigrant. Arizona's law appears narrower: It includes language against human smuggling and makes it illegal to pick up laborers for work if doing so impedes traffic.
    Alabama's law also goes further in requiring schools to check the immigration status of their students. The measure does not prohibit illegal immigrants from attending public schools; lawmakers said the purpose instead is to gather data on how many are enrolled and how the much the state is spending to educate them.

    Jared Shepherd, an attorney for the ACLU, warned that because of that provision, some immigrant parents may not send their children to school for fear of arrest or deportation.
    Activists such as Shay Farley, legal director of Alabama Appleseed, an immigrant advocacy group, said the bill invites racial profiling not only by law enforcement officers but by landlords and employers.
    "It's going to make us profile our neighbors and our church brothers and sisters," Farley said.
    Alabama's Hispanic population more than doubled between 2000 and 2010 to 186,000, or 3.9 percent of the state's nearly 4.8 million people, according to the Census.
    Some farmers and other small businesses had hoped to be exempted from having to verify the immigration status of employees, fearing the database would be too costly and add too much red tape. Georgia's law, by contrast, exempts businesses with fewer than 10 employees.
    Alabama's measure was modeled on Arizona's. A federal judge blocked the most controversial parts of Arizona's law last year after the Justice Department sued.
    That includes the provision that required police to check people's immigration status while enforcing other laws if there was reason to believe the person was in the country illegally. The case appears headed for the U.S. Supreme Court.

    A less restrictive law in Utah also was blocked after a lawsuit was filed. Civil liberties groups have sued to stop Georgia's law as well.

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  2. 4-H chicken mom

    4-H chicken mom Crowing

    Aug 3, 2007
    Oberlin, OH
    Well I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but my feelings are simple, if you are here illegally, you should be deported. I don't care how old you are.
  3. Farmerboy16

    Farmerboy16 Rebuilding my Farm

    Dec 30, 2010
    Sparta, MI
    Quote:[​IMG] I was not able to work at local farms because MI is swamped by illegal people, so I have no job.
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2011
  4. Boyd

    Boyd Recipient of The Biff Twang

    Mar 14, 2009
  5. An education that WE are paying for. Sorry but I do hope this passes. I went to high school at Murphy High School, located in Mobile, AL and I am sure my friends still in the area would much rather see their tax dollars spent on a children and adults who are in the country legally.
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2011
  6. sonjab314

    sonjab314 Constant State of Confusion

    May 15, 2010

  7. Spookwriter

    Spookwriter Crowing

    Feb 23, 2010
    I respect our immigrants. Have nothing against them. Even admire
    thier courage in coming here.

    BUT...I do have a problem with the ILLEGAL immigrants. Just for the
    record, I have an issue with the citizens who choose to live in an
    illegal manner.

    For those immigrants here legally, trying to build a better life for themself
    and their family...I do admire you.

  8. Boyd

    Boyd Recipient of The Biff Twang

    Mar 14, 2009
    Quote:that's also the distinction I make also.. as my sister married an immigrant, as well as most of my cousins and several of my friends. What can I say, our family has a soft spot for Hispanic women [​IMG]
  9. SED

    SED Songster

    Aug 4, 2009
    North West Alabama


  10. MandyH

    MandyH You'll shoot your eye out!



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