Our apple trees are falling over they're so full of apples and I'm thinking about making some hard cider. I've never even tasted any, but I saw some Brits making and enjoying some on a BBC show. They REALLY looked like they were enjoying it! Anyway I've looked up the plans, costs and supply list for making a press and all in all it seems cheap ($30.) for supplies and my husbands a builder. I'm a little confused, one site says don't add yeast the next says to add yeast but not bread yeast then the next site says they only use common bread yeast. On another site they said the apples and sugar will ferment perfectly on their own then the next site says to use a product to kill all all the natural yeast then readd the yeast they sell. I was hoping to get the real scoop from a trusted BYC member. All in all it seems pretty simple and my husband and I are both excited to try it, but I thought if we're going to the trouble to do it we ought to give it the best chance we can of tasting good. According to what the sites say it would be really aged and good by Christmas. Wouldn't that make a great gift?