I posted this message in the New Subscriber section as well so I'm sorry for the double newbie question but want to make sure it is in the right section of the forum.... Hello! Have recently joined the site and finding such a wonderful amount of information about chickens. My family and I are going to build our first coop and run and it seems that hardware cloth is recommended wholeheartedly to protect against predation. I can only find 19 gauge hardware cloth. One website I ran across recommended 14 gauge rabbit cage wire for coops and 17 gauge hex wire for the run. The website recommended against 19 gauge hardware cloth as it is not strong enough to prevent predators from ripping it apart. I found 14 gauge, 1 x 2 mesh, 36 x 100 foot rolls for $162.50 plus shipping ($27.50). Would this be a good wire to use on a coop and run? 14 gauge does seem stronger. http://www.bassequipment.com/Default.aspx?TabId=10 We are planning to use a 10 x 10 x 6 chain-link dog run as our chicken run and putting a 3 ft. skirt of wire around it to prevent digging under and then going up the sides with 3 feet of wire. I have seen many pictures where runs had that extra layer of wire going 3 feet up the sides instead of all the way to the top. Does this protect against racoons as I thought they could climb? Should the extra layer of wire go all the way to the top? Thank you!