Hawks and other birds of prey--kill or not?

Discussion in 'Predators and Pests' started by dacjohns, Nov 21, 2010.

  1. dacjohns

    dacjohns People Cracker Upper

    This is from an article in the recent Outdoor Life magazine.

    Top 10 Poaching Fines
    The biggest busts in U.S history

    #6 $60,000 and probation, Bowman, ND. Levied in 2006 against Warren W.Anderson for killing five hawks.

    Are your chickens worth $60,000?

    Time and again members post about killing hawks. And time and again members are warned by other members to not advertise taking part in illegal activities. Remember the third S in SSS is silence or shut up.

    Quite awhile back I read about a bust of roller pigeon owners for trapping and killing hawks. The word gets out to law enforcement.
  2. redhen

    redhen Kiss My Grits... Premium Member

    May 19, 2008
    Western MA
    For me..its not about the fine. Because i highly doubt that i would get caught. Noone here around me to tell.
    BUT.. i wouldnt kill them because they are beautiful creatures that are just trying to eat and survive. I cant hate them for that.
    Dont they mate for life also?? (i believe that red-tails do..?)
    That would kill me to know that i took away anothers creatures life mate.
  3. mississippifarmboy

    mississippifarmboy collects slightly damaged strays

    Redhen, you are such a softy. Most people wouldn't even think of that.
  4. desertdarlene

    desertdarlene Songster

    Aug 4, 2010
    San Diego
    I don't think I could kill a raptor, anyway. They are so interesting, even the Cooper's hawks and falcons which will easily kill and eat just about every type of bird I love. I would invest in covered runs, instead, if possible.
  5. Me either. We have so many around here, its interesting to see where they perch to watch the world. We also have turkey buzzards that are hilarious to watch, and there is an old dead tree on the way to town that usually will have 10=12 in it and I wish I had a camera with a really good zoom to get a pic to show you. Talk about a halloweenish pic every morning, that is it!!! I agree they are just doing their natural born instinct and with the way things are being cleared out and new subdivisions coming in everywhere, they are losing their natural hunting grounds. I also would hate to think I took a mate away. I have seen life mates grieve over the loss of their loved one, and its tragic. Two legged or otherwise.
  6. theFox

    theFox Songster

    Sep 21, 2009
    Standish, Maine
    Gee I'd say Warren got off easy.

    In some states they will confiscate the means you used to participate in the illegal taking.

    So all of you would be poachers don't use your Rolls to get to your hunting grounds, it could cost you big bucks.
  7. lleighmay

    lleighmay Songster

    May 21, 2008
    Woodlawn, VA
    It's my job to keep my birds safe; it's not any predator's fault for doing what it's been designed to do forever. If something gets one of my birds (all of whom I love dearly by the way) then I need to rethink what I'm doing to keep them safe.
  8. Ed62

    Ed62 Songster

    I agree with the others. Why would you kill something that's just trying to get a meal? Now if that happens to be a rat........ well, that's different.

  9. zazouse

    zazouse Crowing

    Sep 7, 2009
    Southeast texas
    Quote:I totaly agree, the hawks around my place are smart, i have them trained to stay out of my no fly zone, all i have to do if one enters the area by mistake is clap my hands if they do not see me first and they do a dodge move and high tail it out of the area.

    I have absolutly no losses to hawks and i have plenty living and nesting here on my place.
  10. CoyoteMagic

    CoyoteMagic RIP ?-2014

    Glad to see so many like minded folks. Too many people take about just blowing them away and being done with it. These birds are amazing creatures many of which are endangered. Thank you for taking responciblity for your birds and not blaming it on the hawks for doing what they naturally.

    Turkey Buzzards.....we have a place that we would go crabbing as kids called Turkey Point. Not gobble gobble turkeys but Turkey Buzzards. As Whispering Winds talked about hanging out in the trees looking like something out of a halloween picture

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