Help- Egg bound?

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  1. msmolly

    msmolly Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Read through the threads about Egg bound Peahens and can't find the post that lists how much Calcium Glutomate to give with fluids SubQ. I see 5 mls of 23% in 150 mls fluid, and also 2mls 23% subQ. So how do I give 150 mls? is that 3 times? So help- my poor hen has been in and out of the vets office for a 10 days now and no egg! She has had fluids and calcium, some oral, some injectable, but the stupid vet would not tell me how much of anything he was giving her. He said he also did some prostaglandin cream and some oxcytocin- again no idea how much and how often. Theated her for hook worm and coccidiosis. We've been tube feeding her as she wont eat. Iv'e had her home for 24 hours and don't want to catch her again till I'm ready with the right amount of calcium and fluids. I have oral and injectable calcium. I have a bag of fluids. I can tube feed her- Some one please tell me what to do at this stage. She is walking around and perching. She has been fairly alert till now- she looks dozey- keeps closing her eyes. She ate a few blueberries this morning and a small amount of hard boiled egg yolk yesterday- but other than that not interested in food.
    Please tell me how much and where to give whatever. Thank you. I will be eternally grateful !
     
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  2. casportpony

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    @msmolly , when I took my 4 kg hen to the vet for egg binding they had me give 200 ml subcutaneous fluids, 1.7 ml calcium gluconate (100 mg/kg), and 0.7 ml meloxicam (0.25 mg/kg) *every 12 hours*. Additionally, they advised me to keep her in a warm, humid room, so I turned my hot water heater to max, then filled the bathroom with steam and placed her on the counter in the dark. Does that help at all? They gave her oxytocin at the clinic, but didn't tell me how much they gave.

    Can you feel her egg?
     
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  3. msmolly

    msmolly Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thank you, Where is the best location to give the subQ fluids? Are you giving her the fluids from the bag and injecting the CalcG into the port thingy, or giving the fluids and then giving a seperate injection subQ of the calcG?
    I cant feel the egg, but the vet said it had dropped down... I'm surprised I cant feel it. I put olive oil inside her and everything.
     
  4. Dany12

    Dany12 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Are you sure that's it? What were the symptoms? I have been raising peacocks for 30 years and it never happened! Even a soft egg is rare ... sometimes at the beginning of lay!
     
  5. casportpony

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    Several people here have had hens with stuck eggs.
     
  7. msmolly

    msmolly Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I really don't know at this point. This all started 14 days ago. Lucy layed 3 eggs over 4 days, and all were streaked with a little more blood than I was comfortable with. Then the next day(14 days ago), she went down, and I found her lying on the floor of the coop, limp and weak. Rushed her to the vet (at 6pm ofcourse), where they kept her for 2 nights. Bloodwork showed good organ function, but sign of infection and hookworms. treated for worms, gave antibiotics, tube fed with Emeraid and oral calcium. XRay showed a full size egg, but not calcified up high in the track, not yet dropped down. Lucy had a bloody stool while there, so they attributed it to the worms. Brought her home, continued with tube feedings with 4mls oral calcium and Flagyl 2 time/day. She was definetely getting stronger, perching up higher each night, walking around during day...but no interest in food and drinking only small amounts of water. No Egg by Friday night- the last egg having been layed the previous Sunday. So went to Emergancy Vet to be shown how to do the subQ fluids with injectable Calcium. They insisted on keeping her, never telling me that the hotshot Avian guru vet, was on vacation. They kept her till Wednesday- and discovered Coccidia, so treated her and we all assumed that was the cause of the problems. They Xrayed again, said the egg had dropped down and was much more calcified- but felt soft.
    By Wed- I was frantic- wanted to get her home where I could deal with her(plus, the vet and I were not seeing eye to eye). She walks around, mopey like. Stands for long periods hunched up with wings dropped down some. She will eat tiny bits of food like egg yolk or blueberries, but thats it. Gave her a long warm soak in tub, oiled and examined her ovaduct (cant spell the other word,..cloacha?) and cannot find an egg. Tube fed her yesterday. Just now, tried the subQ fluids with inj 23% calcG- but only got 100 mls into her, and praying I did it right. She seems strong and alert, but still a bit mopey, and wont eat or lay eggs.
     
  8. casportpony

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    I forgot to mention that my vet also had me give Baytril. Call and ask them about Baytril and Meloxicam.
     
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  10. msmolly

    msmolly Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Okay, and where is a your chosen spot to put the needle. Do I need to worry about hitting an airsac?
     

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