I haven't posted all that much, but I've been reading lots. What a wealth of information! I think I introduced myself, but if not, well, I live in Seattle, have wanted chickens for ages and finally got around to doing it. And of course, I couldn't make life easy for myself and just get chickens. Oooohhh noooo, I just had to get barnevelders, which meant ordering the eggs and getting my hands on a (very old) hovabator. I'm having great fun, and as I say, this message board is GREAT. The eggs I got have been incubating for nearly 10 days, and I am so excited--out of 13 eggs, I can CLEARLY see a little chick moving around in there in 7, THINK I can see a little chick moving around in 3. Two others are clearly duds (really weird egg shape on both), but am waiting just a little to see if anything happens (more for my curiosity than anything else). And then there's one that I just don't know. For the past four days it's been stuck in the egg turner. Just stuck, even though I've tried a gentle wiggle. I've kind of let it go because I just figured I'd take care of it when I take the turner out of the hovabator. But now that I've so clearly seen those little wiggles ... well, I don't want to kill it if I don't have to. Any suggestions to help a total newbie out? I really appreciate it. I tried doing a search because I can't believe I'm the only person who's had this problem, but maybe I'm just not getting my search terms right.