Help! Elector psp alternative?????

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  1. HeatherTheMommy

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    My flock has either mites or lice including the 4 day old babies and mama hen. Elector psp is sooo expensive but my husband found something similar with the same ingredient. Can I use this????? Anyone ever try it????

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    Thanks! Is that for the .05% spinosad dilution? I bought a spray bottle with .01% of the spinosad, which sounds like it'd be pretty close to the dilution you suggest, if it's the .05%.
     
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    Which one did you get?
     
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    If you bought the ready to use spray it's not strong enough.
     

  8. casportpony

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    There is a reason Elector PSP is so expensive, it's because it's highly concentrated.
    Is this what you bought? This is 0.001%, you need a final dilution that's 0.1%
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    Elector PSP is 44.2% = 442 mg spinosad per one ml
    Captain Jack's 0.5% = 50 mg spinosad per 1 ml
    Captain Jack's Ready to use 0.001% = 0.1 mg per 1 ml

    Elector says to mix 8.9 ml to one gallon. 8.9 x 442 mg = 3933 mg per gallon

    Does this make sense?
     
  10. lizgarf

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    I bought the .01% spray; but I did it after figuring out the dilution you had recommended was about 1:4, and .01 is 1:5 of .05, and that seemed close enough! Yeah, I did the math earlier with Elector PSP's concentration, and you're correct that it's hugely more concentrated - about 1000 times! But, since you only need to use 2 tsp once, it seems overkill to buy it and keep it around. I'll try this and see how it goes. Personally, I'd rather err on too dilute, as I also keep bees (though I read that the bees should be fine if don't come in contact with product within 3 hours of application.
    But, I have another question: My mite infestation was quite bad. I applied a bunch of DE and also gave some of the birds some drops of my cat's "Revolution" two nights ago, before reading about spinosad. I saw significantly fewer mites today. Should I wait before applying the Captain Jack's, or go ahead and give it a try, since I am doubtful I could have eradicated them and I really don't want them biting me anymore, let alone the chickens?!
     

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