So, the day before yesterday, when I went out to feed, I noticed my beautiful big blue cochin "Monsoon" sitting and then when he tried to stand, he couldn't walk a straight line - like drunk. He could get to where he wanted to but not without zigzagging or falling. The past couple days I have been treating him indoors as if he had botulism as I just assumed that's what it might be since I lost 2 ducks in the past 6 weeks, thinking it was that also. This is the first time I have lost any of my birds in years!! Here is all the info... 1. Blue Cochin Roo, 3 years old - feels lighter than he should be but difficult to know because he's a giant fluffball! 2. Noticed on Tuesday, September 19th (today is Thursday, September 21) that he was sitting, and he usually is right next to me when I come in to feed. When he got up, he couldn't walk a straight line, staggered around as if drunk. 3. 2 days 4. No other chickens seem to be sick, but I did lose 2 ducks in other separate pens over the last 6 weeks. Their symptoms seemed to be different - no "drunk" staggering, just general not feeling well, not interested in treats, and ruffled feathers/squatting. Illness came on suddenly and they were dead within 2 days. 5. No sign of trauma but we do have a little frizzle rooster and they sometimes scrap a little 6. No known cause of this 7. Since I brought him in the house 2 days ago... 1st day he didn't eat much. Yesterday and this morning has eaten really well. 8. When I first brought him in the house, it was runny, watery - had some dark green and white. Yesterday and today it has been pretty solid. 9. Activated charcoal on the first day, molasses water the next day, colloidal silver today. All the time alternating with plain water with electrolytes and a little poly-vi-sol. 10. I hope to treat myself just due to $ for a vet. Problem is, I am supposed to go out of town this weekend and he needs round-the-clock care right now. I hate to put him down just because I have to leave town for work! 11. Out in the coop we use kiln-dried pine shavings and have for years. Conditions that could have brought on disease - hot temps, lots of rain and lots of flies that we are working on getting under control. However, their coop has been dry now for a couple weeks. Please note - when I first brought him in the house, he was just staggering but by the end of the day he couldn't walk at all. If I lift him up and let him go, he just falls forward. He can only get around by flopping himself around by pushing off his legs. I have to set him up manually for him to lay properly and then I prop up his chest a little and put his food and water directly in front of him. He eats his food all on his own and seems to have a decent appetite but I have to hold the water dish right up to his beak (actually with his beak partly in the water) for him to sip any. If I wasn't there I don't think he could ever right himself to get his own food and water. He just sits on a towel on my floor. Sometimes he sleeps, sometimes he tries to go places but can't flop around too far. Sometimes he "clucks" and flaps his wings in protest if I pick him up and move him but no crowing in the am or anything. Have no idea what's going on as he seems to fit some symptoms of botulism and some of Marek's and really not sure what the problem is - something different altogether? Would love some thoughts! I love this big boy - he is a pet - sweet huge boy. I've attached a video of him trying to get around this morning. It doesn't help that the floor is slippery but he would do the same thing on carpet.