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Help.... I Hear A Chick , Up No Pip

Discussion in 'Guinea Fowl' started by david's grammy, Apr 22, 2011.

  1. david's grammy

    david's grammy Out Of The Brooder

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    I hear the chick, but no pip what does that mean. I know it has pipped the internal membrane, but have has it not broke the shell.....how long will it live in the shell, before it dies, if I do not take it out?
    Help, Have been hatching for several yrs, but had this problem...grr...
     
  2. PeepsCA

    PeepsCA Chillin' With My Peeps

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    LOL poor grammy, BREATHE... Does the keet sound weak? Internally pipping first before they start pipping the shell is very normal with my hatches. Read my other replies to your other posts. I would not try helping the keet out before the end of day 28 unless it sounds like it's week and giving up, even then I'd want to wait a little longer. You could do more harm than good, unless you've done it before. It could bleed to death or climb out of the shell without fully absorbing all of the yolk, which usually never ends well. When keets don't hatch... there's usually a reason, they aren't quite right, genetically weak in some way and you could pass down the genetic issues to it's offspring, weakening your flock, or the flock of who ever buys the keet from you. Sorry I am not of more help... I've hatched a lot of keets tho, and seen the issues that have to be dealt with when keets are weak and helped out of the shells.
     
  3. caral07

    caral07 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I just hatched out some keets, and I didnt help any out. They will hatch on there on or there not getting out is what I have to remind myself. Still I had one hatch without absorbing all the yolk as Peeps CA mentioned and it died. So I would leave it alone as well.
     
  4. david's grammy

    david's grammy Out Of The Brooder

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    It stoop peeping with out piping , so it has died.... [​IMG] I was only to put a small ...tiny hole in th air sack, so it would get more air, but when I went ina picked it up....no more peeping ...nothing ...shoot...I have the humididty at 90% and temp has always been steady 100 ..still air....I misted the eggs when I candled a few after the one died...I see no movement...[​IMG]
    i sold 20 doz eggs at an auction , cause I had no room in my 4 incubators and gave 7 doz to a friend.....now...this , of my hens 5 actually are sitting on a community nest in their coop....I have about 150 adults, but once they start to free range, things like coons, snakes, etc. always get the eggs. I live way out in the country..no neighbor, so they free range pretty far away during the day... my dog, and I have in the pasted walked the place everyday...for miles it seems ...too find very few, so was really counting on these 41...and the 1 that did hatch now has spradle.leg ( spelled wrong)
    ....good grief....
     
  5. caral07

    caral07 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I'm sorry.[​IMG]
     
  6. zazouse

    zazouse Overrun With Chickens

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    I believe the humidity is way to high and they could be drowning, try to get it down to around 65%.
    Hope this helps.

    You stated you have 150 guineas, are you having trouble finding the nest if they are free ranged?
     
  7. PeepsCA

    PeepsCA Chillin' With My Peeps

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    david's grammy :

    It stoop peeping with out piping , so it has died.... [​IMG] I was only to put a small ...tiny hole in th air sack, so it would get more air, but when I went ina picked it up....no more peeping ...nothing ...shoot...I have the humididty at 90% and temp has always been steady 100 ..still air....I misted the eggs when I candled a few after the one died...I see no movement...[​IMG]
    i sold 20 doz eggs at an auction , cause I had no room in my 4 incubators and gave 7 doz to a friend.....now...this , of my hens 5 actually are sitting on a community nest in their coop....I have about 150 adults, but once they start to free range, things like coons, snakes, etc. always get the eggs. I live way out in the country..no neighbor, so they free range pretty far away during the day... my dog, and I have in the pasted walked the place everyday...for miles it seems ...too find very few, so was really counting on these 41...and the 1 that did hatch now has spradle.leg ( spelled wrong)
    ....good grief....

    Did you open the top of the egg at the air cell enough to see in, and confirm the keet is dead?

    I asked once before... were there any instances where the temp spiked high or dropped low? Where are your incubators located, in the house, in the garage, in the barn? In my incubating experiences, LGs need to be set up in a room with a really stable temp, or the temps in the incubator fluctuate too much, usually getting too low.

    I agree with Zaz about 90% humidity being too high... I find that between 75% and 80% works best for my hatches, but if I keep it at 65% I seem to get a lot of shrink wrapped keets. It does spike up a little after you mist the eggs, but should stabilize within an hour. You can open up the plugs to lower it back down to where you need it to be.

    What kind of bedding is on the brooder floor that the lone keet is in?​
     
  8. MuranoFarms

    MuranoFarms Chillin' With My Peeps

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