Help! Infected/missing eye! (Possible life or death matter)

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by AtlantisPeeps, Nov 16, 2014.

  1. AtlantisPeeps

    AtlantisPeeps Chillin' With My Peeps

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    My lavender Orpington got pecked in the eye last week (note we THINK it got pecked. Hoping it's not a disease....). We rinsed it out, and put Vetericyn in it to clean it. I also posted on this forum about what to do, but no responses. Now it's very swollen and red, and I can't even see the eye ball (wondering if it even exists now), and it looks infected. She is also acting lethargic. What should I do? Can't take her to a vet... Does anyone recommend any antibiotics safe for chickens eyes? Please someone help!
     
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  2. AtlantisPeeps

    AtlantisPeeps Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Somebody help???? I am buying Terramycin eye gel and will be administering that. Also possibly buying Tylan50 for a respiratory infection just in case that's whats causing the eye problem... Have noticed sneezing...
     
  3. Eggcessive

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    The Tylan 50 would help if it is a respiratory infection such as MG or coryza. Is there a bad odor around the head which could be a sign of coryza? Since there is sneezing, lethargy, and a swollen eye, I would treat for MG. Dosage of Tylan 50 is 1 ml if over 5 lb, 1/2 ml for under 5 lb once or twice a day for 3-5 days. It can be given as an injection into the breast muscle or orally if you can't do the injections. It works better as a shot though. Here is some info on MG and coryza:

    Mycoplasma gallisepticum

    Synonyms: MG, chronic respiratory disease (CRD), infectious sinusitis, mycoplasmosis
    Species affected: chickens, turkeys, pigeons, ducks, peafowl and passerine birds.
    Clinical signs: Clinical symptoms vary slightly between species. Infected adult chickens may show no outward signs if infection is uncomplicated. However, sticky, serous exudate from nostrils, foamy exudate in eyes, and swollen sinuses can occur, especially in broilers. The air sacs may become infected. Infected birds can develop respiratory rales and sneeze. Affected birds are often stunted and unthrifty (see Table 1).
    There are two forms of this disease in the turkey. With the "upper form" the birds have watery eyes and nostrils, the infraorbitals (just below the eye) become swollen, and the exudate becomes caseous and firm. The birds have respiratory rales and show unthriftiness.
    With the "lower form", infected turkeys develop airsacculitis. As with chickens, birds can show no outward signs if the infection is uncomplicated. Thus, the condition may go unnoticed until the birds are slaughtered and the typical legions are seen. Birds with airsacculitis are condemned.
    MG in chicken embryos can cause dwarfing, airsacculitis, and death.
    Transmission: MG can be spread to offspring through the egg. Most commercial breeding flocks, however, are MG-free. Introduction of infected replacement birds can introduce the disease to MG-negative flocks. MG can also be spread by using MG-contaminated equipment.
    Treatment : Outbreaks of MG can be controlled with the use of antibiotics. Erythromycin, tylosin, spectinomycin, and lincomycin all exhibit anti-mycoplasma activity and have given good results. Administration of most of these antibiotics can be by feed, water or injection. These are effective in reducing clinical disease. However, birds remain carriers for life.
    Prevention: Eradication is the best control of mycoplasma disease. The National Poultry Improvement Plan monitors all participating chicken and turkey breeder flocks


    Infectious Coryza

    Synonyms: roup, cold, coryza
    Species affected: chickens, pheasants, and guinea fowl. Common in game chicken flocks.
    Clinical signs: Swelling around the face, foul smelling, thick, sticky discharge from the nostrils and eyes, labored breathing, and rales (rattles -- an abnormal breathing sound) are common clinical signs. The eyelids are irritated and may stick together. The birds may have diarrhea and growing birds may become stunted (see Table 1).
    Mortality from coryza is usually low, but infections can decrease egg production and increase the incidence and/or severity of other diseases. Mortality can be as high as 50 percent, but is usually no more than 20 percent. The clinical disease can last from a few days to 2-3 months, depending on the virulence of the pathogen and the existence of other infections such as mycoplasmosis.
    Transmission: Coryza is primarily transmitted by direct bird-to-bird contact. This can be from infected birds brought into the flock as well as from birds which recover from the disease which remain carriers of the organism and may shed intermittently throughout their lives.. Birds risk exposure at poultry shows, bird swaps, and live-bird sales. Inapparent infected adult birds added into a flock are a common source for outbreaks. Within a flock, inhalation of airborne respiratory droplets, and contamination of feed and/or water are common modes of spread.
    Treatment: Water soluble antibiotics or antibacterials can be used. Sulfadimethoxine (Albon[​IMG], Di-Methox[​IMG]) is the preferred treatment. If it is not available, or not effective, sulfamethazine (Sulfa-Max[​IMG], SulfaSure[​IMG]), erythromycin (gallimycin[​IMG]), or tetracycline (Aureomycin[​IMG]) can be used as alternative treatments. Sulfa drugs are not FDA approved for pullets older than 14 weeks of age or for commercial layer hens. While antibiotics can be effective in reducing clinical disease, they do not eliminate carrier birds.
    Prevention: Good management and sanitation are the best ways to avoid infectious coryza. Most outbreaks occur as a result of mixing flocks. All replacement birds on "coryza-endemic" farms should be vaccinated. The vaccine (Coryza-Vac) is administered subcutaneously (under the skin) on the back of the neck. Each chicken should be vaccinated four times, starting at 5 weeks of age with at least 4 weeks between injections. Vaccinate again at 10 months of age and twice yearly thereafter.
     
  4. AtlantisPeeps

    AtlantisPeeps Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thank you so much! There is no smell, no rattling breathing and no discharge, so I think you have it pinned down with the diagnosis of MG! Now, will she recover after treatment with the Tylan 50? What's the mortality rate? Also, should I treat the rest of my flock with Tylan to be on the safe side?
     
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  5. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive True BYC Addict

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    The mortality rate with MG if uncomplicated, is low. She will always be a carrier if it is MG. I would not recommend treating birds unless they are showing symptoms.
     
  6. casportpony

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    If Tylan doesn't work, you could try Baytril.

    Places to buy it:

    Read this about using it:

    Dose I use is 0.09ml per pound by mouth or injection for no more than 5 days.

    -Kathy
     
  7. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    This can be used:
    https://www.twincitypoultrysupplies...id=952&zenid=7f6b03ea19330ed9473c1e251b6b4c2b

    -Kathy
     
  8. AtlantisPeeps

    AtlantisPeeps Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Ok... Just came back in from injecting 1/2ML of Tylan 50 into her. I researched how to inject her and I think it went well. Thank you guys so much for your help! I hope the swelling in her eye goes down... It's the size of a marble...
     
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  9. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    Is the swelling soft or hard? If it's hard you should read this:
    http://connerhills.com/sinus_infection_removal.html

    -Kathy
     
  10. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    @AtlantisPeeps , how much does she weigh? 1/2cc (25mg) might not be enough for a bigger hen.

    -Kathy
     

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