Help now please! Sick Domineque may not make through the day!

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by FlaChickenMan, Jan 2, 2009.

  1. FlaChickenMan

    FlaChickenMan Out Of The Brooder

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    Chicken is hen, speckled dom, about 4 months old. Started getting lethargic, weak, drooping wings, clear liquid poop with bright green mush. Separated her from her sister as she started plucking her tail feathers. Gave her milk, yogurt, oatmeal, amprol mix, but now after 2 days I have to syringe feed her. Got her in a small animal cage with heat lamp. No wheezes, or any respiratory signs/sx. What should I do. I also have 3 RIR (11 months) and they are fine. Her sister is doing fine as well. What is going on???? Here are some pics:
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  2. maymiegirl

    maymiegirl Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I am hoping this is not what I think it is. Mycoplasma Gallisepticum (I think is how you spell it. There are several different types of mycoplasmas. My course of action would be to absolutely separate the bird and any other birds who fall ill and completely sterilize the entire coop with Clorox--allowing the birds to remain in another location for 24 hours. Oxine should be added to the water at 7 drops per gallon because the virus passes through the feed and water when infected birds eat.

    You have the option of saving your bird but the bird can be a carrier to the rest of your flock for up to a year. Eventually it will turn intp Chronic Respiratory disease.

    Tylan is the most economical and best treatment for this disease and you will buy a great deal of it if the virus passes through your flock.

    You should put your flock on Probiotics immediately and add it to the feed according to the directions. This will help their immune systems to fight off the bacteria. The bacteria needs to be obliterated and this will include a rigorous program of cleaning, Agricultural lime in the soil and creamating of any birds that fall ill and die.

    The green color of the droppings could mean the bacteria has mutated into Newcastles disease. Feeding the way you are feeding should help to prolong the life of the bird. But I would cull it if either case is evident. This bird can look like it has recovered and give it to another bird. Worming the flock gives them a boost so they can fight off the disease and an EFFECTIVE rodent control program should be implemented immediately. Rodents DO carry this bacteria but many opinions I have read have referred to Hatcheries as the point of origin. My guess is you have hatchery stock somewhere on your property or very close to.

    Be careful where you walk because the bacteria is easily spread. I can send you links to this. If there was Ever a shedding of the small intestine lining which appears as a red, wormlike dot in the feces, I would definitely cull the bird.

    This is the sign of a respiratory virus that is sweeping flocks all over and it is not pretty. Believe me, I know how hard it is because I went through this with my flock and am just now trying to rebuild. My healthy birds are raised in kennels in my huge basement until my 4 months of sterilization is up.

    Sorry this is so long but I have a deep desire to help ANYONE make it through this awful process. I will be here for you if you need me and if I don't know something I will find you an answer.
     
  3. FlaChickenMan

    FlaChickenMan Out Of The Brooder

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    I sure hope this is not the case! I will cleanse the coop where she was and her sister is! It is in very close proximity (adjoining pen), May have to clean that one too. I may have a family of rats in the RIR's pen, I will set out traps. Sorry to hear this news though! Yes send me the links.
    Thank you very much for responding.
     
  4. maymiegirl

    maymiegirl Chillin' With My Peeps

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    The Pullorum-infected birds have this type of poo also. You can add puppy milk replacement to her syringe and feed her 2 to 3 times a day--but green poo is not good. Your local farm bureau should have a reasonably-priced program for getting this problem resolved. You should try calling them. It may help.

    Hopefully your birds do not have Pullorum.
     
  5. Here a few possibilities. Of course it may be non lethal or it may be very serious.

    green - feed intake low, and bile not diluted

    green diarrhea - Leucocytozoonosis

    green diarrhea - Pullorum

    green droppings capped with lge amts of white urates - Infectious Synovitis


    I have had CRD and I can not remember bright green poop.

    There is such a variety of NORMAL looking poop. This choock may have gotten into something while free ranging !!
     
  6. maymiegirl

    maymiegirl Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Yes, I agree there. The worse thing about all those is that She may need to be culled because there is no cure and she would be a carrier. If it is Pullorum It needs nipped in the bud immediately.

    You will want to vaccinate if it is available so you really should have her checked by a vet or Dept of Ag
     
  7. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    In my opinion, she has no symptoms of mycoplasmosis/CRD. Those do have respiratory symptoms. Bright green poop can mean she isn't eating. She could have sour crop-feel it and if it feels gassy, like it's blown up, that may be sour crop. Also, their breath smells bad from fermenting stuff in the crop. It can be caused by eating moldy feed--check waterers, coop corners, anywhere food could collect and mold. If she has crop issues, food may not be getting through or she may not be eating at all.

    I do not go to the worst case scenario without symptoms and she has none I would automatically identify with CRD or the like.

    BTW, never heard of a speckled Dom. She looks like a Dominique pullet, certainly.
     
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  8. speckledhen

    speckledhen Intentional Solitude Premium Member

    When you do check her crop, do not push up on it and make her spit up stuff. She can aspirate and choke to death. I know from experience.

    Pullorum is NOT common anymore. And CRD has some actual symptoms. That pic of her looks like her eyes are clear and her nostrils are as well.

    You didnt put out any poison for those rats, did you? If not, are they eating the feed? Rats can carry disease to the birds.
     
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  9. FlaChickenMan

    FlaChickenMan Out Of The Brooder

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    They do free range in my backyard. I have 2 Angel trumpet plants that I cought them nipping at the leaves about a week ago?? Her crop feels "saggy", soft, but not full like she had been having all along (crumply feelling). I just fed her via syringe, vinegar water with the Amprol with plain yogurt and milk with a little olive oil.
     
  10. FlaChickenMan

    FlaChickenMan Out Of The Brooder

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    I have not put out any poison for just that reason, may get transferred to chickens. But there is a small shed right next to them and I lifted up the pavers and saw a lot of tunnels leading to the spilled feed area. I dug up under the shed and found a lot of straw (taken from the nests I suppose) but never saw a rat come running out. I am putting traps out (and out of reach of chickens and dogs)!
     

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