HELP!! [Vid Pt2 incl] - Turkey panting, opens beak, tongue out... any clues??

Discussion in 'Turkeys' started by thespeedyz, Dec 23, 2012.

  1. thespeedyz

    thespeedyz Out Of The Brooder

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    Thought this one's respitary problems were over.. coughing stopped, breathing improved (after antibiotics, peri peri, garlic, ginger and multi vitamins)... but now it opens its beak in a strange way, puts its tongue out etc... got me worried. Any ideas? Last time these symptoms hit my chickens I lost a whole lot pretty quick before I could check it.

    Here is the video I just shot, sorry about the quality...
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2012
  2. MeatKing

    MeatKing Chillin' With My Peeps

    I would think they were hot? Idk, I'm still really new to this whole poultry world.. Is really hot where you are? I noticed you live in Africa, is it always hot there? (sorry if that's a stupid question) My birds pant in the summer here..
    What's you version of hot? Mine of plus 40 celius..
     
  3. frank53061

    frank53061 Chillin' With My Peeps

    I had a Chicken that did the same thing before I started using food grade diatamais earth for worming.
    I found with some research that the Chicken had Throat worms that cause the bird to stick its tongue out almost like it was panting.
    I used a old farmers cure and got some tobacco and simmered it in water to make like a syrup.
    When it cooled I had my Daughter hold the Chicken and I forced the beak open and slowly poured 1 tablespoon down its throat and after a few hours did this again after each dose I gave it a minute or two and held the bird by its feet head down to allow the bird to cough up the worms and ex spell them.
    After 24 to 36 hours the Chicken acted normal.
    After giving the Chicken this Tobacco juice it almost acted like it was going to die because of the worms pulling loose and dieing.
    Nicotine is the best and natural Insecticide there is and ac ts fast and will not harm the bird.

    I am not saying that for 100% that is what is wrong with your Turkey but that is what it sounds like I don't think what you have done so far would have done any thing to kill the worms if that is whats the problem.

    If this fixes your Turkeys problem use food grade diatamais earth in there feed every month or so and spreed it on the ground and dust them with it this will kill the worms in the ground and also the parasites on the birds dont Inhale the dust its not good for the airways.
    This diatamais earth will not harm any of your animals I use it in my Dogs Food as well.

    104 °F is also very Hot for any Birds Supply them with plenty of shade and hose them down as often as needed I did this for my Birds when it got near 100 F and supplied them with a Kiddy pool with fresh cool water keeping it cool and even taught them to get into it.
    Between these two susgestions I hope I was of help.
     
    Last edited: Dec 24, 2012
  4. chickenzoo

    chickenzoo Emu Hugger

    I've not had luck with DE...but others seem too. Look up gape worm. If you see little red worms in the back of the throat..that would be it. Often Ivomectrian is used as treatment swell as for other worms.
    Turkeys in pain can pant....is she laying age....
    If something is.caught around base of tongue it can.cause troubles.....
    If wheezing sound in chest its respiratory....
     
  5. thespeedyz

    thespeedyz Out Of The Brooder

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    It's not hot here, pretty cool actually pleasant (it's the rainy season). It's a male, so not laying :) But I will check the throat for any signs of abnormalities. I have been giving it medicine in the water, as well as my own concoction of medicines etc forced in the beak with a dropper, 3 times a day. The bird seems to be loosing weight. It is also coughing quite a bit. Here's a picture, will try get a video of it soon....

    [​IMG] ok below is the video.. sorry about the quality..
     
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  6. MeatKing

    MeatKing Chillin' With My Peeps

    Wow, That looks almost painful..
    I hope you find out what's going on. That looks bad :(
     
  7. frank53061

    frank53061 Chillin' With My Peeps

    I used a old farmers cure and got some tobacco and simmered it in water to make like a syrup.
    When it cooled I had my Daughter hold the Chicken and I forced the beak open and slowly poured 1 tablespoon down its throat and after a few hours did this again after each dose I gave it a minute or two and held the bird by its feet head down to allow the bird to cough up the worms and ex spell them.
    After 24 to 36 hours the Chicken acted normal.
    After giving the Chicken this Tobacco juice it almost acted like it was going to die because of the worms pulling loose and dieing.
    Nicotine is the best and natural Insecticide there is and acts fast and will not harm the bird.

    Have you tried this yet its a simple and easy Fix it appears to be Gape worm in the throat.
     
  8. Celie

    Celie Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thanks for the tip, Frank! I never have had to treat and of my animals for worms, thank God, except for pigs, when I raised them many years ago. I have all my rabbits off the ground, in cages, so they don't get worms and so far, I have not seen any on my poultry. All my poultry are raised on sand and good pasture, but I am sure sooner or later I will need such information. Now I know where to go for advise when the time comes. I am always getting on DH about throwing his butts on the ground where the turkeys can pick them up! The first time I noticed it, the cigarette was still partially lit and it looked like the turkey was smoking it. Maybe they were eating his cigarette butts?[​IMG]
     
  9. thespeedyz

    thespeedyz Out Of The Brooder

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    Well I've been trying the "tobacco tea" - last night, this morning, and we'll do it again this evening................ --it does act like it's dying for a minute after :(
     
  10. thespeedyz

    thespeedyz Out Of The Brooder

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    If mine is Gapeworm I figured by reading an article on coccidiosis, it needs "Corid", right? So I investigated a local equivalent - Corid is Amprolium? I found something called Amprolin-300 ws which contains Amprolium hydrochloride... here's hoping it works because nothing else has (I gave it something called Sulfacox for a few days, as well as garlic, ginger, apple cider vinegar, multivitamins.. etc, etc.. even tried doing some sort of "tobacco" syrup recipe.. but to no avail (see video)...
     

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