I am curious, how can you tell how old a chicken is? For instance, if somebody told you the birds you bought from them were 8 months old and had just started laying. BUt, to you they look much older, say 2-3 yrs older? I have japanese black tailed white bantams that I am referring to. I have two roosters that I have raised since birth, and then I have 9 hens that are supposed to be 8 months old. To me, the hens just look older. Their feet aren't as yellow as my roos. Their toenails are VERY long. I've had them about 3 weeks now and only gotten 3 eggs. Also, their crown is very pale, not a bright red as I thought it should be if they had just started laying. My roos feathers are so much whiter and cleaner. Their feathers look dirty and just plain old. I was chalking the "dirty" appearance up to maybe movement during shipment, but now I am starting to wonder. When you put a hen up next to my roo, there is just an obvious difference. Here's some pictures, if you can see to make a conclusion. ****What's your opinion? Need some better, close up pictures? All opinions appreciated!!!