How do you guys feel about the booster seat laws being put in place?

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Glad you brought up the organ donor. When do you all think the
governments will begin mandating organ donor-ship?


I'm an organ donor and proud to be one. If I die tonight while riding my
motorcycle with no helmet on, my organs can save 3 or more people. As far
as I know I still want to live.
 
MY judgement call, not theirs. Persuade me, don't order me.

Enough said, why complicate it?

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin​
 
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IF that's how you want to take it, fine, but I should have that *choice*. Our govt was founded to protect our Liberties, and one Liberty we can not do without is the right to make our own choices, right or wrong, and suffer the results ourselves.

Overzealous Govt (and many people who support this sort of thinking) are chipping away at our rights. Some people simply get a kick out of making other people jump through their hoops. At various times throughout history it was religious zealouts doing that, or activists like the Temperance movement. Today it's the Nannies and the Nanny State giving people their "I'm holier than Thou" fix.

Btw, I always wear my seatbelt, and I wear a helmet when I ride my motorcycle... but I object to someone else standing over me with wagging finger ordering me to do so with the threat of legal force.

You do realise you are not actually being prevented from doing anything you like, like everything else in life there is simply a consequence being attached to that choice:

Wear your seatbelt and increase your chances of surviving an acident, Don't wear your seatbelt and increase you chance of a serious injury and a penalty fine.

Your rights are not being eroded you are simply being told there is a consequence to what you are doing. (This is not a new thing, it holds true fundamentaly for everything since the beginning of time! remember Einstein's cause and effect?)

Now you are perfectly able to choose to oppose any law you do not like and not conform to it, however there is a consequence, it is your decision.

BTW I am glad that governments make decisions that help protect our children. Whilst everyone here obviously holds their children's welfare as a top priority, unfortunately it is not so everywhere. There are always those people who will only care for their children when a threat of financial hardship , imprisonment, etc is likely. For those children's lives, laws like this are litteraly life saving.

IMHO Children are not the property of their parents, they have a right to their protection under the law and a right to the freedom to grow up and pursue their constitutional rights, they cannot do that if some idiot parent thinks its okay to sit them in the back of a car and turn them into hamburger in the event of an accident!

I was not going to say this as I wanted to be objective and not personal, but I was thrown through the back of a car window when i was 3 weeks old after my father placed my crib on the back seat. He was only going to the store and it was not far. He always drove carefully, unfortunately the drunk driver who hit us did not.

My Mum was left severely scarred after the accident, she sufered terrible nightmares, post natal depression and had a nervous breakdown. I was thrown through the rear window and landed on the grass at the side of the highway. Even though I was fine my father has never forgiven himself for what happened, my mother said looking behind her and not seeing me there was the worst moment of her life.

I was incredibly fortunate but how many other people think the same thing... its not far, i'm only driving slow, it's only the back roads, there's never any traffic around here, they're my kids, i decide, its too much hassle to get the kids in their seat, it's my constitutional right (to endanger my kids!)...........

Very well written response and obviously this is a topic personal to you.

I don't have a problem with the government trying to protect children.
I have a problem with a government that can mandate almost every
aspect of our lives.

Where does it end? Most deaths in this country are a direct result
of our diets. When are the world governments going to start writing
tickets to overweight people or when will motorcycles be outlawed or
smoking be banned or anything else with risk attached?

Every day there are more and more laws with politicians championing
these laws hoping to have a spot in the history books. What about
when we add a new law we remove an old one.

I dunno.
 
How many here believe in evolution?

As bad as it sounds, by protecting the bloodlines of stupid people we are breeding stupidity more deeply into humanity.

Not a very compassionate concept I know, but true none the less.
 
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I believe each adult should have a choice of weither or not to put on their seatbelt.
but babies/children are unable to make that desicion for themselves so the the laws
is for them. f parents would step up and do what is best and safest for their children
no laws would be needed. we are a family of 8. we drive a 12 passenger van and have
4 car seats in it. my 6 yr old and 5 yr olds are still in 5 point harness car seats and will
till 65lbs or meet the height max first. my 3 yr old and 1 yr old are still rear facing. and
will till 35 lbs. it may not be convenient for me but they are worth it. cause no matter
how safe i drive there will always be some drunk, make-up put-er on-er, call phone
text-er person the road not paying attention who can hit me.
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So what's the problem? He's doing his job. Part of my job description is to enforce laws. Therefore, I stop cars and issue summonses. We, the police, didn't create the laws and statutes. We just do our jobs and enforce those laws and statutes. "I pay your salary." I've heard that once or twice. "You sure do, and I'm making sure I earn that salary by issuing you this summons. Have a nice day."

Amen. Again, cops don't make the laws, they just enforce them. They'll ticket you without a seatbelt and they'll also scrape you (or your child) off the pavement if you ignore the law and have a terrible accident.
If you want to ignore the law then fine, do it. But please have lots and lots of medical insurance so I don't have to pay for your defiance; be it in higher medical costs or in the nightmares my DH has after he's had to deliver the bad news to the loved ones of a "rebel".
 
Frankly, I *am* being prevented from making my own choice, by Govt, and the Nanny Statists who support it - through threat of legal force.

If you can be fined for exercising a right, then frankly it is not a right. That should be self evident.

Everybody has a story. Hey, a seatbelt saved my life, but that doesn't mean I should not have the *choice* to wear it or not. That also does not mean people who feel that they are Holier than Thou, or smarter than everyone else, should get to dictate to everyone else what they choose to do.

To the person who glibly asked "when will govts start mandating organ donorship" - This is a perfect example of this mentality. Some people even think your own guts aren't your own property. Come on, really, even if ppl don't think I have the right to make my own choices in my life anymore... surely you must agree that my innards are MINE to dispose of as I please, right?

If ppl with this mentality are allowed to continue running roughshod over all the rest of the people, pretty soon govt will be "Protecting" us to the point of smothering us to death.

As far as I am concerned, "It's for the Children!" is one of the great rallying cries of the new, kinder, gentler, more fashionable tyrant.

Do as you wish for you and yours. Do not dictate to me and mine.

Frankly, Liberty is more important than life. Some people in this nation once realized it. Many today shame their sacrifice.
 
south carolina has pretty strict booster seat laws.my cousin lives there and she is very small! as in like 70 pounds maybe and not even 5 feet tall.and shes 13. she was in a booster seat until she was almost 12! i find that for some very young children it makes sense but it can also be a nuisence to naturally small people
 
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