how hard is it to breed out the muffs&beard-ameraucana-Lav proj.

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by klf73, Sep 9, 2008.

  1. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
    Maine
    I was thinking about all the lavender talk. Since Ameraucana come in lavender already, is there any reason you can't use them for an Araucana lav project? How many generations does it take to breed it(muff & beard) out? Any other downside to using them?
    Thanks
    Krista
     
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  2. Anne

    Anne Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hi Krista,

    I can't entirely answer your questions, as I've never purposely bred an Ameraucana with an Araucana, but I have had several generations worth of "accidents" with my bearded Easter Egg layers X Araucana roosters (the EE hens tend to make secret nests in the garden and hatch out illegitimate offspring, LOL). Seems like it takes about 3 generations, give or take, for the beards/muffs to go away.

    *edited to replace bad word with "illegitimate" LOL*
     
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  3. KKluckers

    KKluckers Time Out

    Sep 4, 2007
    I still get cleaned faced Ameraucanas from my blues and blacks. So, maybe you'll get lucky!
     
  4. tadkerson

    tadkerson Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Muffs and beard is a dominant gene. On your first cross, all the offspring should have muffs and beard (that is if the muff/beard parent carries two genes for muffs and beard). If you cross the offspring with a bird with out muffs and beard then half of the offspring will not have muffs and beard.

    Tim
     
  5. Shaffer

    Shaffer Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Krista,
    Please do start one the more the merrier.
    I already started a Lavender Araucana project plus I sold Charlie a cockerel.
    You will not have a problem breeding out the muffs and beards from Ameraucanas.
    Since I believe you got also eggs from my EE stock they may have some clean faced birds in them also. They may also have some crest which is also easy to breed out.
    I would love to have a rumpless crested muffed and bearded one just like on the Australian Crested site.
    Good luck hatching, HS.
     
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  6. wilds of pa

    wilds of pa Chillin' With My Peeps

    Yes i got a great lavender male from Harry, he is clean faced with pea comb,,however i beleive he has white skin,
    but that dont matter as we have 4 nice hens waiting for him that have yellow skin... two are Blacks rumpless clean faced and then we have two Black double tufted and tailed hens all just for him.

    Got about another two weeks and then he will get them all.

    I did have two in with another lavender roo but the hens have stop laying in this group so no eggs from them as of right now.

    So hopefully i will get the new coop in here by the weekend and get it preped the following week, then we can group them up to start the project off for next season...

    For me i prefer no visaul muffs and beards to start off, Thats one less thing to worry about. getting the right color and traits is more than enough to deal with on Araucana..Just my thought on the muffs and beards.

    Guess if its all you got to work with than one must use it..

    Just looking to get and all American LF Lavender Araucana...soon..lol hehehhe

    Charlie
     

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