Hybrid Cross Between a Duck and a Goose: Do Gucks Exist?

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  1. Camilla Chicken

    Camilla Chicken Out Of The Brooder

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    My friend said she saw a guck do they exist? If they do could someone show me a pic. also, I've heard a little about Swan X Duck cross or a Goose X Swan cross are those real too?

    (ps sorry i'v been posting like crazy this is like my 3rd thread posted t-day [​IMG]im addicted to BYC [​IMG] XD )
     
  2. scratch'n'peck

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    I am pretty sure they are distinct species that cannot produce offspring. But if anyone knows any different, I would like to see a photo, too. There is a breed of goose that is called a swan goose, but that is just because it is a large breed of goose, I think.
     
  3. Miss Lydia

    Miss Lydia Running over with Blessings Premium Member

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    I had a Muscovy duck sit on a Embden goose egg that I traded for some Scovie eggs, the gosling hatched and lived as a giant duck for 5 yrs. he mated with the ducks and they never hatched out any gucks. matter of fact because of their mating there were alot of duck eggs that never developed. I don't think it is possible for a duck and goose to reproduce. I think a swan goose is a chinese goose by the way. Okay just read your post, and I'll just say I will believe it when I see it. [​IMG]
     
  4. Frank Phinster

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    For successful hybridization the species you want to cross need to be related, which means in other words that they should not have developed into different species too long ago.

    Most ducks from the genus anas are believed to have developed quite recently ( spoken in terms of evolution) and thus have a lot of genes in common and thus easily cross and produce fertile offspring. Since the genus of anas may just have undergone radiation about 5 million years ago they are still closely related.

    It becomes difficult when the genera are different - take the mulard as example. The two species you want to cross here belong to the genera of Cairinia ( still not certain whether dabbling duck or shelduck) and Anas (dabbling duck as dabbling duck can be). They still readily hybridize in captivity but offspring is infertil.

    Geese and ducks do not only belong to different genera but also different subfamilies that have undergone seperate evolution for a long time so they are not related closely enough. When the two
    genomes meet, they cannot merge because they are too different from each other.

    For the same reason, a hybrid between duck and swan would also be very unlikely not to speak of technical difficulties...
     
  5. Tivona

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    This link has even more info on the goose x mute swan hybrid:
    http://www.gobirding.eu/Photos/Swoose.php

    This link has more info on the Mallard x Egyptian Goose: http://www.gobirding.eu/Photos/EgyptianGoosexMallard.php

    The photos are quite amazing. Thanks for the info, Tivona.

    I guess it is possible to get a hybrid even though it is quite rare.

    By the way, I did more exploration on the Egyptian goose It is a very cool looking water fowl species that is said to be in the Shelduck family, which sounds like it is an intermediate between geese and ducks. Thus, the Egyptian Goose might cross more easily with a duck than most geese.
     
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  7. Miss Lydia

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    Me too s'n'p I still would like to see some pics. [​IMG]
     
  8. Frank Phinster

    Frank Phinster Chillin' With My Peeps

    Now we would need some more evidence for the goose x duck hybrid to be certain. Single sources are not valid on their own and it appears rather odd to me that there seemed only to be a single occurence. Ducks and geese are commonly kept together, so hybridization should be a little more common.
     
  9. scratch'n'peck

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    I just edited my previous post about the supposed mallard and Egyptian Goose cross. The photos in the link are really cool at least.
     
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