Hi all, Thanks for the encouragement and just wanted to let you know I had goat milking progress today. I milked about 4 cups (one half a cup got kicked over - Buttercup is the culprit). I laughed at this link sent by Skyesrocket. It was all true. All that kicking convinced me to get a hobble. http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/11-10-2005-81101.asp The first session with the nice compliant doe went 10 minutes, with me praying for grace to milk her. She was exploding with milk (the poor thing). I viewed a couple of milking YouTubes yesterday and after that first 10 minutes of pure frustration, I thought, "THAT'S IT! I'm gonna just imitate what they did in the video and what I saw those little babies doing (they sure jam their snoots into their mothers) and began to push up and pull down, opening and releasing and trying to squeeze at the same time. Suddenly...WOW! I got a bit of rhythm going and AM I CRAZY??? I swear I could feel the bag filling and then I'd squirt it out and I'd feel a filling and then squirt. I hope I wasn't reading in desires to that, but it seemed to be the case. Is that really what happens? Well, just thought I'd be thankful to you all and give an update. My whole body is aching!