I know what I think of this.... what do you think?

Discussion in 'Random Ramblings' started by I have WHAT in my yard?, Feb 25, 2009.

  1. I have WHAT in my yard?

    I have WHAT in my yard? Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jun 24, 2008
    Eggberg, PA
    Last summer Haskett was working at a McDonald's in Little Rock, Arkansas when he jumped from his post to take down a man who was abusing a woman in the fast-food joint. As the two men tussled, Haskett was shot multiple times. His recovery has required several operations amounting to $300,000 in medical bills. A hero? Not according to Mickey D's.

    No, instead the company is pushing to deny Haskett any worker's compensation that could go towards paying down his medical debt and moving on with his life.

    According to the Arkansas Times,

    Haskett filed a claim with the state Workers Compensation Commission. Misty Thompson, a claims specialist with McDonald's insurer, Ramsey, Krug, Farrell and Lensing, said in a letter to the Commission that "we have denied this claim in its entirety as it is our opinion that Mr. Haskett's injuries did not arise out of or within the course and scope of his employment."

    What they could have done for their image they squandered. Foolish decision, when large corps are so poorly viewed right now.​
     
  2. Indiana hens

    Indiana hens Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jun 25, 2008
    Pendleton, Indiana
    I had a friend working for me that wanted to get out of the truck and help get stuff out of a burning barn; until I told him that I was not paying any medical bills if he did. He stopped and got back into the truck. I do not care that much for McDonalds food. Just because they are a chain; most are independently owned. I did not know they hired bouncers at McDonalds. Just my opinion!
     
  3. MissPrissy

    MissPrissy Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    That is only one piece of the story.

    Consider this - not all McD's are a corporate store. Many are franchises owned by tiny incs or small corps (owning 1 - 10 franchises). Each of those makes their own policies and rules. Some places have a policy that an employee is not to interfere or engage with custmers and to call 911 for assistance

    Yes, the guy did a very good deedby helping the woman being abused. However, he did so while on duty, not as a part of what he was paid to be doing. His injuries are a result of his own actions and not injuries sustained as part of his job.

    He should not be entitle to workman's comp for his injuries. Depending on his employment he might be eligiable for disability through his insurance or SS.

    McD's should have (and we don't know they didn't) offered a helping hand in some way but they shouldn't have to dig deep in corporate pockets to pay for this.

    Too my people expect corporations to pony up the bill for too many things.
     
  4. Opa

    Opa Opa-wan Chickenobi

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    Well said Miss Prissy. As a small business owner I have very strict rules about what my employees can and can't do. The cost of medical insurance and the expectations many people have as to what their employers should pay is driving many small businesses out. While I commend the individual good samaritin act, paying for his injuries would bankrupt me.
     
  5. Jena

    Jena The Welsh Witch

    Nov 2, 2008
    Cardiff
    lol... I find this wierd, sorry I am not in the USA so I dont know how your system works there. Please forgve my ignorance.

    I am trying to start a small business here in the UK I have insurance, it costs me about £150 per year, but I don't employ anyone. So I am not expereinced in any of this. But I am insured for any employees or customers up to £1M.

    But in this particular story I do have one question. What about the guy who shot him? How much is he paying towards this man's care and health? Is he in prison? Are Tax Payers in the USA keeping him as well?

    Does the guy who was shot have 24 hour care, with a roof over his head and 3 meals a day? Plus what liberty does he have now?

    Hasn't this criminal robbed him of a great deal more than the initial effects of the assault? the medical bills? etc.

    Plus how much money does Mc Donalds Make each year? Would it really hurt them so much to help out this guy, grab the publicity all very positive, and use it to teach that he should not really have stepped in to this situation. Who knows maybe the criminal would have shot the woman he was abusing instead and life could just carry on... and nobody would be hurt eh? not financially anyway.
     
  6. gypsy2621

    gypsy2621 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jun 29, 2008
    New Hampshire
    Quote:In the places I have worked Dunkin Donuts and McD's the first words out of the manager and district manager is , "In case of burglery or confrentation" walk away and call police DO NOT engage.
    It is right in their workers hand book, it is also on the computer training program.
    I am sorry but he broke the rules there for on his own.
     
  7. I have WHAT in my yard?

    I have WHAT in my yard? Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jun 24, 2008
    Eggberg, PA
    I am saddened by these responses.

    I have run large corporations and I know what the letter of the rule is and I know that employers face difficulties when employees do things outside the scope of their job, but the only post here that makes true sense to me is the one asking why the person who committed the crime is not paying for the injuries.

    McDonald's made a stupid and shortsighted decision here. The assailant could very easily have turned that gun on any customer in the store. This has happened to them before and many people died. Yes, he "should" have obeyed the rules and ducked behind the counter. But, instead he did what I would like to think some one would do for me.

    It does not matter what the letter of the rule is. What matters is that public perception could have been swayed to such a huge degree. They could have made a hero out of this man, portrayed him as the kind of people that Americans want to be these days. The kind of people we need to be these days.

    The time for cover your butt legalese is over - it is time for us to start looking for the good in each other.
     
  8. English Chick

    English Chick English Mum

    Jun 27, 2008
    Cheshire UK
    Here in the UK it is mandatory, that all business take out Public Liability Insurance... it is not that expensive in most cases, it covers the business its employees and anyone setting foot within its domain in the event of accidents.....in the event of anything going wrong, accident (we dont usually have shootings) etc etc.... the claim is made agaisnt the insurance comany via the policy....
     
  9. English Chick

    English Chick English Mum

    Jun 27, 2008
    Cheshire UK
    I have WHAT in my yard? :

    I am saddened by these responses.

    I have run large corporations and I know what the letter of the rule is and I know that employers face difficulties when employees do things outside the scope of their job, but the only post here that makes true sense to me is the one asking why the person who committed the crime is not paying for the injuries.

    McDonald's made a stupid and shortsighted decision here. The assailant could very easily have turned that gun on any customer in the store. This has happened to them before and many people died. Yes, he "should" have obeyed the rules and ducked behind the counter. But, instead he did what I would like to think some one would do for me.

    It does not matter what the letter of the rule is. What matters is that public perception could have been swayed to such a huge degree. They could have made a hero out of this man, portrayed him as the kind of people that Americans want to be these days. The kind of people we need to be these days.

    The time for cover your butt legalese is over - it is time for us to start looking for the good in each other.

    BRAVO!!!! well said....​
     
  10. heyeddah

    heyeddah Chillin' With My Peeps

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    For more background info on MCD's I highly recommend reading
    Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser
    Behind The Arches by John Love
    Big Mac byMax Boas
    Grinding It Out by Ray Croc

    My son is writing a term paper about the big corporation and leasing and the effect MCDS had on America in the 60s.
    The information in these books is remarkable.
    As a business owner who serves the public and pays for insurance of all kinds, I have too much to say about both sides of this story.
     

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