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I thought bumblefoot, but not sure now.

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Sea2Ski, Feb 27, 2017.

  1. Sea2Ski

    Sea2Ski Out Of The Brooder

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    I am not sure what is going on with my hen. At first I thought it was bumblefoot, but now I am not so sure. There is a small scab on the bottom of her foot though it is really small, like half a normal dog tick small. But her pad is swollen and on either side of her middle toe as well.
    This came up quickly. I did not notice anything last week, but yesterday I saw a slight limp and a little swelling so I looked closer yesterday and tonight. Tonight, it is much larger. She is laying, eating and drinking as normal.

    Thoughts?
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    I went out and bought epson salts, a non-pain relieving wound wash, and vetericyn in prep to do the bumble foot surgery, but I am not 100% sure it is going to be like the 20 or so videos and articles I have reviewed in the last 48 hours.

    Any help or advice is appreciated.
     
  2. awarmrainyday

    awarmrainyday Chillin' With My Peeps

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    The yellow bump on top of the foot looks to be the problem. Chicken's pus is hard yellow gunk so I think you need to clean out that spot. Disinfect tweezers and a large gauge needle and it should pull out in chunks.
     
  3. Sea2Ski

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    I am also going to soak the foot really well tonight in water with epson salts. Thank you for the response. Since I do not have any needles. Can I lance the top of the swelling as little as possible and squeeze it out / flush it with a wound wash and bandage it up? I am thinking that might be the best route for me and what I have available.

    Anyone have any other thoughts or ideas?
     
  4. awarmrainyday

    awarmrainyday Chillin' With My Peeps

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    That sounds like a good plan. I usually flush wounds with hydrogen Peroxide too because I think the bubbling helps remove any gunk left behind.
     
  5. Sea2Ski

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    Surgery is complete. I was amazed at how calm the bird was. I know it is a survival mechanism, but I can not believe how calm she was.
    I was able to get out about a marble's worth of infection. I really hope I got it all as I really do not want to go in again and do that. Not for my discomfort of doing so, but for hers.

    Let's hope she recovers okay. I wish I could give her something for her discomfort, because I am sure it hurt like hell. Tomorrow some yogurt, grapes and mealworms. Hopefully she will forgive me.
     
  6. azygous

    azygous Chicken Obsessed

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    I just had a hen with a serious case of bumblefoot. She was a rescue hen and I'm sure the bumblefoot was several years old. I did the surgery, but less than a week later, she began acting sick. I started her on an antibiotic and re-soaked the foot and did some more surgery. It was full of pus again. I'm glad I started the antibiotic.

    Now, ten days later, she's much better, and the foot is healing nicely.

    Since bumblefoot is a staph infection, and it appears your hen has a very serious case, you might consider an antibiotic to help her combat the infection.
     
  7. Sea2Ski

    Sea2Ski Out Of The Brooder

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    Thank you @azygous for a bit of optimism.
    I am not not opposed to putting her on an antibiotic. If it gets her better, I would do it without hesitation.
    Do I have to go to a vet for it? Or is that something I can get over the counter somehow? If so, where and how much how often?

    In the 10 years I had chickens previously, I never had an issue like this, so it is all new to me. Any assistance or guidance is appreciated.
     
  8. azygous

    azygous Chicken Obsessed

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    I would just call a vet and tell them you need an antibiotic for an infected wound in a chicken. They will either sell it to you or give you a prescription.

    In the future, though, you can get antibiotics from KVPet Supply on the internet under fish antibiotics. That's where I get mine. Much easier and cheaper that way. Fish antibiotics work just fine for chickens. I get amoxicillin or penicillin in the 250 mg tablets and capsules.
     
  9. Sea2Ski

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    @azygous, I have no avian vets near me that I know of. Would they know what to prescribe if they do not treat birds?

    Also, what dosage am I looking to give? I am wondering that if the do not know what to give and I ask for x number of pills at 250 mg, they might give it to me. Not sure.
    1 Pill a day for 7 days?

    I am glad to report she looks like she is doing great. She was in isolation today, and when I got home I took her outside and put her on the grass. She started walking fine with only a minor limp. Then she went inside the coop and hopped into the nest box. And there she sat. I think she's going to do pretty well but I want to ensure she is indeed going to be OK.


    And I sincerely thank both you and @awarmrainyday for your help!
     
  10. Sea2Ski

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