I thought she was a Royal Purple...

Discussion in 'Guinea Fowl' started by Lothiriel, May 20, 2012.

  1. Lothiriel

    Lothiriel Crowing

    10,323
    171
    381
    Aug 30, 2007
    New York State
    My Coop
    This is Gretel. I was pretty positive she's a Royal Purple, but seeing some other pictures I'm not so sure now.
    I don't have a picture of before she got feathers in... But she looked a lot like this one (found it here on BYC :p)
    [​IMG]

    4 weeks...
    [​IMG]

    6 weeks...
    [​IMG]

    I've read that Chocolates and Browns are very similar to RP, but never found a very good explanation of the difference.

    Any opinions? (She is a girl, btw. She makes the buck-wheat call regular. :D)
     
  2. jcatblum

    jcatblum Songster

    2,548
    21
    173
    Oct 27, 2010
    Cement, OK
    With the brown tint on the wings as a younger keet I am thinking bronze. My chocolate are lighter than the purple & bronze. Not sure I have a good side by side pic, but peeps might.
     
  3. PeepsCA

    PeepsCA Crowing

    4,732
    193
    256
    Mar 28, 2011
    BFE, CA
    Gretel is a Chocolate (she looks a little diluted, but not what I'd call a Blonde). She'd be feathering in with a much darker brown color at both 4 and 6 wks of age if she was a Royal Purple.

    Royal Purple and Chocolates are both partially pearled varieties, and some Chocolates (in the darker dilutions) can look very similar to Royal Purples as keets and as they feather in... they both have the same markings with sometimes only a slight shade difference. Chocolates keep the brown shade tho, Royal Purples lose all traces of the dark brown, lose most of their pearling and grow in dark grey/charcoal feathers once they molt again at about 10-12 weeks of age. When mature they only have pearls in the flank area and barred wings.

    Browns are a fully pearled variety like the Pearl Greys, and sometimes their colors are a little hard to differentiate between each other as well, unless you can compare them side by side (these 2 colors both have the same fully pearled markings with sometimes only a slight shade difference too... and they can also look very similar to the partially pearled markings if you are not used to seeing the difference). The Browns retain the brown shade, and the Pearl Greys lose all traces of brown and grow in dark grey/charcoal feathers, but both are fully pearled all over except the neck area.

    Hope that helps clarify... re-readin it I kinda got myself a little confused, lol.

    LOL that's my keet in the first pic (and my thumb ring, lol), that bird matured as a Bronze.

    ETA:
    Most Bronzes don't show much Bronze tinting until they are around 6 months old, until then most are dark like Royal Purples and can pass as Royal Purples.
     
    Last edited: May 21, 2012
  4. Lothiriel

    Lothiriel Crowing

    10,323
    171
    381
    Aug 30, 2007
    New York State
    My Coop
    Oh that's great! Thank you for the explanations, Peeps. It was really helpful, and only very slightly confusing. But I got the stuff I needed out of it. :)
     
  5. Lothiriel

    Lothiriel Crowing

    10,323
    171
    381
    Aug 30, 2007
    New York State
    My Coop
    Oh... While we're at it.... This is a Buff Dundotte, right?

    6 weeks....
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]


    4 weeks....
    [​IMG]


    I don't have a full body shot. "Hector" looked like this as a baby... (Not my pic :p)
    [​IMG]
     
  6. PeepsCA

    PeepsCA Crowing

    4,732
    193
    256
    Mar 28, 2011
    BFE, CA
    Looks like a Buff Dundotte to me [​IMG]
    Hector huh? No buck-wheating from that keet yet? Cuz I'm guessing by the dark center head stripe that it might be a Hen... it looks a little too light to be a Brown male, but if it is a male "he" may just be very diluted.
     
  7. Lothiriel

    Lothiriel Crowing

    10,323
    171
    381
    Aug 30, 2007
    New York State
    My Coop
    Oh yay! I was really hoping for a Buff Dundotte. It's the only one out of the 30 we ordered!! [​IMG] (We only kept 8 -- joint order with a few friends.)

    I really have no idea yet if he really is a Hector, or if he's a Helen. [​IMG] I have several buck-wheating but only 2 I have seen doing it for sure -- Gretel and one of my whites (Buttons). I know there are more though.
     
  8. PeepsCA

    PeepsCA Crowing

    4,732
    193
    256
    Mar 28, 2011
    BFE, CA
    Since they are 6 wks+ old, if you separate them one at a time (out of sight of the others, but within earshot), the Hens will usually start buck-wheating. Sometimes the Hens hold out 'til 8-10 wks old to buckwheat tho. (And some even longer!).
     

BackYard Chickens is proudly sponsored by: