I want a buff laced bird- how do I get it?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by hoppy, Mar 24, 2009.

  1. hoppy

    hoppy I'm not all fluff

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    I want a buff laced chicken. I have a blue laced red wy roo and will get the hen I need to make this color (within reason).
    I do have 1 salmon favorelle hen but then I'll get the muffs, want to go with the wynadotte look.
    who can help me with this one?
     
  2. hoppy

    hoppy I'm not all fluff

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    can anyone tell me if I cross my blue laced red roo with a wheaton (marans) will I get buff laced down the road?
     
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  3. Kev

    Kev Overrun With Chickens

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    If it's buff laced as in buff laced Polish.. you need all the genes(lacing is the visual effect of several different genes) for the normal lacing as on your BLR roo plus the dominant white gene.

    The dominant white turns black pigmentation into white yet leaves red and gold pigments mostly unaffected. So what it does on a gold laced bird is turns the black lacing into white.. presto, a "buff laced".

    For your project.. not sure what else you're aiming for but I'd guess an outcross to a WLR cornish might work. WLR cornish are simply Dark Cornish with dominant white added. They still have the lacing so with this outcross you are not losing all the genes necessary for decent lacing. From then on all you need to do pretty much is just cross a bird with white lacing back to a BLR or gold laced wyandotte until you're happy with the type etc.

    Edited to add.. neither the faverolle or Marans have dominant white so these would not help any.
     
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  4. hoppy

    hoppy I'm not all fluff

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    what is WLR ?
    sorry if that's a dumb question.

    (i got it white laced red)
     
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  5. Krys109uk

    Krys109uk Chillin' With My Peeps

    Splash is sometimes used for buff laced. Many Jubilee Indian game are splash. Hoppy might find it easier to get another BLRW
     
  6. hoppy

    hoppy I'm not all fluff

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    can you explain this?
    I have blrw now (both hens and a roo) mostly I think, the light blue but they might be splash. I don't know how to tell.
    anyway, what are you saying I should do to get the buff laced?
     
  7. Krys109uk

    Krys109uk Chillin' With My Peeps

    Well splash can be pretty much white with just a few flecks. Depends upon the birds.

    I used to breed both BLRW & Indian Game back in Britain & the splash did the job of white. I also took some really nice gold laced wyandottes & put dominant white onto them & they looked very pretty too. I have a photo to show each on an old email somewhere I'll see if I can find it.

    If you breed two BLRW together all things being equal you ought to get about 25% splash laced. That said I have seen some apparently intermediate shades in the BLRW in US.
     
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  8. hoppy

    hoppy I'm not all fluff

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    is wyandotte white a dominate white? or does it depend on the bird?
    from what you were saying about splash, mine are not splash but will produce it.
     
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  9. blackdotte

    blackdotte Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Mating two Blue Laced Red Wyandottes together will not produce Buff Laced birds, you will have Splash Laced Red Wyandottes. You need to mate a Gold Laced or a Blue Laced Red to a bird with Dominant White,
    some lines of White Wyandotte & White Plymouth Rock are Dominant White.
     
  10. hoppy

    hoppy I'm not all fluff

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    is there a way to know if the bird is dominate or recessive white from the parentage?
    should I not try crossing with a wheaton maran to get the buff color? my other thought was a salmon favorelle but then I'd have to breed out the muffs and feathered legs.
     

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