I was going through some old pics from shows and came across a bird that was entered as a black orp but the judge said it was a black australorp. That got me to thinking, black australorps are just production bred black orps right? Well since they are wouldnt that make other production strains their own breed? Looking at production RIR's and good RIR's is like comparing BA's with black orps. I brought this up because a friend was dissapointed in the hatchery RIR's, they thought that they would be like the "pure" RIR's. Whats everyone else's thoughts on this?