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If not coccidiosis what could it be? pooing red and goo EVERYDAY, no other symptoms.

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by vills, Aug 13, 2018.

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    Hi all
    TESTED NEG for coccidiosis and parasites ....yet still continues..


    Hope you can help. I've got one of four hens (3 pullet around 18 weeks old and 1.5 year old hen) who has been pooing what seems like intestinal lining with occasional blood for around 3 weeks now. I've treated them all with a sulpha med (2 weeks ago) for suspected coccidiosis and doing so again this week (day 5 of treatment) with Amprolium 200 powder at outbreak dosage. Also treated them for worms about 2 weeks ago also with 14h?L Levamisole product. Though not sure they drank enough of it to make a difference (they had clear poo for one day after treatment and then back to unusual coccidisos looking poo ).

    Out of desperation I also had fecal test done last Friday and it showed NEGATIVE for coccidiosis and parasites. But was advised by vet and lab technician to treat for coccidiosis anyway. Waiting for bacterial results tomorrow also.

    It is only one hen pooing this way (stringy pink and sometimes brown goo with blood at times). All four hens have exhibited absolutely NO symptoms of being ill since the first bloody poo came out 3 weeks ago. They came to me originally from a free ranging home, where no chicken ever gets sick. Doesn't seem to have affected any other chicken..four weeks and no clues still.

    They have been on medicated feed also (just amprolium no antibiotics) for the last 3 weeks. There is very little evidence of blood but still a tonne of bright pink and red intestinal lining. I' find yellowy looking threads in poo everyday also, lots of them, which look like worms and go dark red when they dry up but nothing moving in poo, but I suspect this is only intestinal lining as negative result for parasites. EVERY DAY for 3 weeks there is this strange cocci looking poo.

    5 days on amprolium and still no evidence of improving poo issue. Any ideas if it could still be coccidiosis or something else? Worms? defect? Chickens all acting normal. But this has being going on for 3-4 weeks now, every day pink reddish poo (at times light caramel looking poo mixed in there) with what looks like intestine. Someone here at the local pet shop who owns chickens told me if it was coccidiosis they would have had symptoms or be dead by now...hmmm ..And only one chicken affected. I can post pics if it helps, just have to find the pics. Perhaps I did not treat properly for worms?? Has anyone's chickens gone through this kind of situation? ..negative for cocci and parasites on test results but still pooing what looks like intestinal shedding for weeks!Also out of curiosity, can fecal tests be wrong and chicken still have cocci?

    appreciate any ideas or clues I'm missing.
    Cheers :)
    Vills (from Australia)
     
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    KikisGirls Read more Premium Member Project Manager

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    Yes fecals can be wrong.
    Can you post a few picture please?
     
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    KikisGirls Read more Premium Member Project Manager

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    Also exactly how much of each if the meds you mentioned above have you been using?
     
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    artsyrobin Artful Wings 9 Years

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    spray the poop with hydrogen peroxide - if it foams(not just bubbles) i'd treat for cocci
     
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    KikisGirls Read more Premium Member Project Manager

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    Cocci the bacteria or coccidia the parasite will make it foam?
    This is the first time that I have heard this trick.
     
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    artsyrobin Artful Wings 9 Years

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    actually its the blood it is reacting to, it bubbles in reaction to bacteria, but it has a more extreme effect with blood.

    Here is a good site to pin down what is going on
    poultrydvm.com/views/symptoms.php
     
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  7. vills

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    ok here are the pics...phew big job downloading..

    first pics are from three ago...every day samples. Not one day except for when I treated for worms it all stopped...but just for one day!
     

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    pics after treatment with sulfa for 5 days
     

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    these are the lastest pics from this week whilst on Amprolium 200 (started on Friday, now on day 5 of treatment)..some are close ups of the "threads" not sure if worms or intestinal lining.
     

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    They're on 1.5grams of Amprolium 200 per one litre of water. I mix half of it in their medicated feed to ensure they take it. The rest is in the water feeder/container. They're free ranging so Ihave to follow them around with the litre of medicated water and medicated crumbles or mix to try to make sure they drink it. I've also added at times some ACV and garlic in the feed. A couple of times I've added the medicated water in some rolled oats also. But they mainly have just medicated water in the medicated feed so they eat it that way. So far they've eaten most of it and usually leave about 200ml of water by end of day.
     

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