in ducks, does lavender affect chocolate?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by onthespot, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. onthespot

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    Just wondering. Don't have any lavender, don't have any chocolates. Some of the muscovie pics make me wonder is all.
     
  2. Chris09

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    I believe this is right.
    Self-Blue/Lavender is a black with a pastel gene.

    Below are diagrams which shows what variety of offspring you could expect from a pairing. These
    diagrams assume that each bird is pure and does not 'carry' other colors - the bird on the left is the drake.

    self-blue X chocolate = 100% black ducklings, all carry pastel, drakelets will carry chocolate
    chocolate X self-blue = black males that carry chocolate and pastel and chocolate females that carry
    pastel.

    Chocolate is a sex-linked gene..

    Chris
     
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  3. CityChicker

    CityChicker Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Do you mean just in Muscovies, Onthespot? I know Muscovy colors are different from the Mallard derived colors and I know nothing about Muscovies. In the other breeds, Lavender is double blue dilution on Chocolate (which is homozygous extended black with sex-linked brown dilution). The genotype is wild type + E/E d/d Bl/Bl.
     
  4. onthespot

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    Oh. If the genes line up right, and the bird is a visual chocolate and carries two copies of lavender, does it wash out the chocolate to a latte/silver chocolate color? (sorry, don't know the right name for that color, or if it exists.)

    Thanks for your answer above. I didn't know it was sex linked in ducks. Are all genes the same inheritance in chickens and ducks?

    In lovebirds there is a MAJOR difference in trait inheritance patterns from Fischers as compared to Peachface. Peachface has a lot of sex-linkd traits that are simple recessive in fischers, lutino, pied is dominant in peachface, recessive in fischers. Those two are a lot closer related than chickens and ducks.
     
  5. Cetawin

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    Quote:Not in all breeds....Anconas for example...chocolate is NOT a sex-linked gene.

    Original poster - I wish to watch the answers you get....I have a lavender ancona paired with a black ancona....but I do have chocolates.
     
  6. Henk69

    Henk69 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Not in all breeds....Anconas for example...chocolate is NOT a sex-linked gene.

    Original poster - I wish to watch the answers you get....I have a lavender ancona paired with a black ancona....but I do have chocolates.

    Your male duck could be carrier of chocolate.
    If you have a reference for an exceptional gene for ancona, please come forward... [​IMG]
     
  7. Cetawin

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    First let me correct myself...it is a recessive trait and that is according to the Waterfowl expert that my Anconas came from Dave Holderread.

    Varieties include Black and White, Blue and White, Chocolate and White, Silver and White, Lavender and White, and Tricolored. Chocolate is a sex-linked recessive trait. If a chocolate drake mates with a black duck, all female offspring will be chocolate, while all male offspring will be black. A black drake mated to a chocolate duck produces all black offspring. Only male offspring will carry the sex-linked recessive chocolate gene. (Holderread 1985, 4)


    Guess I should have went into better detail but hey it is 4 am and I am heading to bed....finally. [​IMG]

    My black drake could be a carrier indeed but I also have a chocolate drake and 2 chocolate ducks....as well as a Lavender duck so...next spring will tell. nite nite
     
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  8. onthespot

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    Quote:Henk69, thanks so much for that link. The answer is yes! If anyone reading this has a picture of a cream duck/drake, if you have time, could you post a picture?
     
  9. Chris09

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