In need of help

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Theroosterman, Oct 22, 2019.

  1. Theroosterman

    Theroosterman In the Brooder

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    Hello

    Two days ago, we considered adding two frizzle Pekins to our flock. We brought home a cream one and a lavender one, two 5 month old hens. They are currently quarantined away from the rest of my chickens because I suspect them to suffer from coryza or a type of cold. It is currently rainy and windy where we live so I wouldn't be surprised that they caught a cold at their breeder's.

    They both sneeze constantly, their sneezes feel wet. They have smelly discharge in their nose which dries on their nostrils. They had laboured breathings but it calmed down a bit (still here though).

    Aside from that, they are alert, curious; they peck at everything and wont hesitate to jump on the side of their cardboard box when we enter the room. The cream one has normal droppings but some can be a bit runny. The lavender however barely eats. We have to make her eat in the palm of our hand but even that isnt enough.

    Id bring them to the vet at all cost but there are none in my area who can treat chickens. Sadly only dogs and cats vets are around here...

    They are on homemade thym/garlic infusions which replaces their drinking water. Each day we clean their nostrils to remove any crust/gunk and put one drop of saline nasal solution in each nostril.

    I am staying positive, but any advices/help would be really appreciated

    Here is photos of them both
     

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  2. Lizzy733

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    Some bantams don't seem to eat much - go by crop - should be full or firm at night and empty in morning. The runny droppings between normal ones are likely cecal poops, which are normal.
    If the bird you are worried about refuses even treats and is appearing to have a drop in activity, then you may want to switch to hand-feeding a small amount of wet mash with a dropper on occasion throughout the day to get her strength up. Scrambled eggs is also a good nutrient boost if she'll have it.
    It does sound like they might have a cold and your immune boosting steps sound good, but also make sure you're not using any fine bedding as this may exacerbate the issue. I've found my adults sneezing over chick crumble before as that can be pretty dusty as well, but there's only so much that can be done about that.
    Have a look in your area for an exotics vet - as in one that would treat parrots, lizards etc... or a livestock vet as an alternative to a dog and cat vet. If you're in a small town, have a chat with the vet anyway - some are willing to tackle exotics. I was my vet's first ferret owner when I lived back in the states - a far cry from poultry, but some are willing to diversify. A lot of medical information translates across species, so an informed opinion is better than none. - just maybe don't give them chicken soup and crackers :)
     
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  3. Theroosterman

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    thank you so much for the reply my wife thinks its coryza but i doubt it since its been cold and theyre just sick and coryza from what ive seen looks to be more serious that a little sniffle and sneezing. But good advice i will try to contact some vet around here anyway see if they could at least diagnose it i hope fingers crossed that it isnt coryza. But anyway thanks again for the reply :)
     
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  4. Wyorp Rock

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    Can you contact the breeder to see if they have any idea?

    Chickens don't really get "colds" they have respiratory diseases. Sometimes conditions like mold and ammonia can cause similar symptoms.

    Having a bad odor could be Infectious Coryza, hard to know without testing. Other disease like Mycoplasma could possibly have a smell too if there's a secondary infection.
    I do see a bit of swelling around the eye on one of them, if you feel of that is it hard or soft?

    Keep in mind that Most respiratory diseases make birds carriers for life and the disease can be spread throughout the flock. Mycoplasma, Infectious Coryza and ILT all are lifetime diseases, Infectious Bronchitis can make them carriers for up to a year. Respiratory diseases can also affect the reproductive system causing reduced production, they can imapact egg quality and a couple are linked to Salpingitis which is an inflammation of the oviduct where hens pass lash material.

    Finding out what you are dealing with is the best course of action. Contacting your state lab about testing would be good or you can use an independent lab like Zoologix.
     
  5. Eggcessive

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    If they have a respiratory disease such as mycoplasma or coryza, they will introduce them to your other healthy chickens and will make carriers of your flock. I would get some testing done by contacting your state vet to see if they test positive, or take them back. Here is a list of state poultry vets who might help get a couple tested:
    https://www.metzerfarms.com/PoultryLabs.cfm

    This link has most of the common respiratory diseases that are seen in flocks along with symptoms and how to treat them:
    https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044
     
  6. Theroosterman

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    im going to contact any vet whos willing theres no doubt about that but i dont know what to do with them if they can infect my healthy flock what a crappy turn of events this was supposed to be a great addition :/ thank you for the reply tho
     
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  7. Theroosterman

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    Thank you for the links they really helped alot and update they are breathing better and sneezing less the little lavender is eating more thankfully im still searching for vets atm
     
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  8. Wyorp Rock

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    Not a popular stance, but what do to with them - one can always cull.

    Hope you are able to get some testing to find out what you are dealing with.
     
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  9. Theroosterman

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    yeah i cant do that the problem is that i cant see myself killing something i see as a pet i dont judge people who do though its normal like a sick dog you gotta euthinize ect but i really cant just like people wouldnt be able to euthinize a dog weird thing is that i can easily cull geese, duck, rabbit but i just cant bring myself to cull chickens. I find them too cute i guess haha
     

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