ha..I only hatched these once..well, again for a friend who's mama duck was killed. Those eggs had been left for a while before he noticed, that didn't work out too well, only had 4 hatch out of that clutch. What are you saying..I did something wrong here? I have the plastic kitchen stuff, and shavings under that. I do this for my chicks at first too, and then it goes up on a board. I just put my new chicks water and food up on a board this morning because they end up scratching the chips in it. These little ducks went fast. I won't have them, not enough area, I just wanted to try hatching ducks. Sooo cute! Welsh Harlequin.