Am looking at getting ducks for the first time. Have had chickens in the past. I have a permanent run which is 23ft long and starts off 7ft wide and ends up 9ft wide. I reckon it's about 180sq ft. Nearly half of the run is a roofed walk in run. I don't have a pond or stream at the minute and was thinking of getting a childs sandpit to fill with water, so it's not going to be massive. I want ducks that aren't likely to fly off though I am happy to clip wings if needed. I need quiet ducks. I've been unable to have cockerels on the past due to neighbour's complaining. I understand that ducks will be noiser than chickens but not as noisy as a cockerel? I think the main problem with the cockereral was the 4am crowing. As long as ducks don't make a racket in the night it should be fine. I know Muscovies are quiet but I'm really not keen on the look. I think I've narrowed it down to runners or Pekins. Any advice which might be best? Would 3-4 ducks be ok in that size enclosure? I understand that ducks will be messy. Do people with a permanent run tend to poo pick? I currently just fork my chicken enclosure over frequently and sometimes put lime down and it seems ok. I know the pond water will need changing often. Thanks.