Intensive Supportive Care for Newly Hatched Ducklings - Preliminary - Will Have pictures and Videos!

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  1. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    Supplies needed:
    • Digital Kitchen Scale
    • Pedialyte or Gatorade
    • Kaytee Baby Bird Food
    • Size 8 or 10 french rubber catheter or crop tube
    • 1 ml syringe
    • Incubator or hatcher

    Ducks don't have crops like chickens, theirs look more like the one on the left in this picture:
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    Here is the size 8
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    Here are the sizes:

    French
    Gauge Diameter
    (mm) Diameter
    (inches)
    3 1 0.039
    4 1.33 0.053
    5 1.67 0.066
    6 2 0.079
    7 2.3 0.092
    8 2.7 0.105
    9 3 0.118
    10 3.3 0.131
    11 3.7 0.144
    12 4 0.158
    13 4.3 0.170
    14 4.7 0.184
    15 5 0.197
    16 5.3 0.210
    17 5.7 0.223
    18 6 0.236
    19 6.3 0.249
    20 6.7 0.263
    22 7.3 0.288
    24 8 0.315
    26 8.7 0.341
    28 9.3 0.367
    30 10 0.393
    32 10.7 0.419
    34 11.3 0.445

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    The 30
    http://www.greatmedicalsupplies.com...l-purpose-robinsonnelaton-catheter-351030.htm

    The 28
    http://www.greatmedicalsupplies.com...l-purpose-robinsonnelaton-catheter-351028.htm

    The 26
    http://www.greatmedicalsupplies.com...l-purpose-robinsonnelaton-catheter-351026.htm

    The 24
    http://www.greatmedicalsupplies.com...l-purpose-robinsonnelaton-catheter-351024.htm

    The 22
    http://www.greatmedicalsupplies.com...l-purpose-robinsonnelaton-catheter-351022.htm

    The 20
    http://www.greatmedicalsupplies.com...l-purpose-robinsonnelaton-catheter-351020.htm

    The 18
    http://www.greatmedicalsupplies.com...l-purpose-robinsonnelaton-catheter-351018.htm

    The 16
    http://www.greatmedicalsupplies.com...l-purpose-robinsonnelaton-catheter-351016.htm

    The 14
    http://www.greatmedicalsupplies.com...l-purpose-robinsonnelaton-catheter-351014.htm

    The 12
    http://www.greatmedicalsupplies.com...l-purpose-robinsonnelaton-catheter-351012.htm

    The 10
    http://www.greatmedicalsupplies.com...l-purpose-robinsonnelaton-catheter-351010.htm

    The 8
    http://www.greatmedicalsupplies.com...l-purpose-robinsonnelaton-catheter-351008.htm


    More to come.

    -Kathy
     
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  2. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    These are using a crop needle, not a plastic tube.

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    "Tube feeding, also known as gavage feeding, is an essential part of avian supportive care. Sick birds are often presented with a history of anorexia and glycogen stores may be depleted within hours in small species with relatively high metabolic rates. Another important indication for gavage feeding is a documented drop in body weight of 5% to 10%."

    -Kathy
     
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    "Estimated crop volume is 50 ml/kg. Begin feeding one-third to one-half of estimated crop volume to the critically ill patient.
    Always tube feed warm formula (100-105°F or 38 to 41°C).
    Tube feeding should always be the last treatment performed.
    Most birds are tube fed between two to four times daily."

    -Kathy
     
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    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    The above post has info from Laferbervet that says "Estimated crop volume is 50 ml/kg. Begin feeding one-third to one-half of estimated crop volume to the critically ill patient.", but I have found that amount to be too high for newborn ducklings.

    Last one I did weighed about 40 grams and I started off giving it 0.1ml pedialyte every 30 minutes. Once I was sure that 0.1 was okay and that he was not going to vomit, I increased to 0.2ml and finally settled at 0.3ml as the safe amount of fluid for a 40 gram duckling.

    -Kathy
     
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    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

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    Here are my two problem children:
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    Little chocolate pipped internally five days ago, then I pipped it externally 24 hours later because it was slowing down. For those that hatch lots, I think you know what I mean. [​IMG] I let it sit for another 24, then peeled away some of the shell and saw it still had a *huge* yolk. I thought seriously about culling it, but decided to leave in in a cup. So it sat in the cup for a couple of days and the yolk hadn't really gotten smaller, and now it was starting to smell like a rotten egg. I then rinsed off the nastiness and poured chlorhexidine over the yolk and abdominal area. Since there was a risk of a yolk sac infection I gave it 1mg of Baytril orally and have been giving it fluids as often as possible as well.


    Do I have medical training? No, but I do have lots of experience giving fluids via a tube, syringe or subcutaneously as well as picking out proper doses of medications for all types of waterfowl and poultry.

    If anyone here wants to learn how to tube, just get the tube, and I can teach you. No reason anyone should ever have to pay a vet to tube feed for them. See tube feeding videos in post number 2, then PM me and I'll help you.

    -Kathy
     
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    Here they are today:
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    Today I found a chicken chick outside that look off, so I stuck it in the hatcher to warm it up. Once warm I weighed it at 90 grams, then tubed 5 ml of fluid to it.

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