is corn as main ingredient good for chickens?

Discussion in 'Feeding & Watering Your Flock' started by chkinut, Dec 30, 2010.

  1. chkinut

    chkinut Chillin' With My Peeps

    Feb 25, 2010
    Leesburg, Ohio
    i'm currently researching chicken feed, and what is the best. the one's i've come across, even the organic ones, list corn as the main ingredient. is this ok for chickens? cuz i know it's not for dogs. of course they're 2 different animals....but i thought too much corn for chickens wasn't good. i'm always reading not to feed them to much scratch. and what is Methoinine? i think i read somewhere that it's bad.....and it seems to be in all the feeds i've seen, even organic.
     
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  2. Domestic_goddess

    Domestic_goddess Chillin' With My Peeps

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    IMO...Cracked corn that you buy at a feed store, I would say use in moderation or just as a treat. For laying hens they need all the nutrients that are in layer pellets/mash...it does contain corn, but alot more vitamins, protien and other things they need to lay well.

    Methoinine is a sulfur-containing essential amino acid and it's just a dietary supplement.

    Good Luck, hope that helps!
     
  3. Chris09

    Chris09 Circle (M) Ranch

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    Quote:Methionine is more than, "just a dietary supplement".

    Chris
     
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  4. Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay

    Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay Chillin' With My Peeps

    Quote:Methionine is more than, "just a dietary supplement".

    Chris

    +1
     
  5. ChickieBooBoo

    ChickieBooBoo Cold Canadian Chick

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    Quote:Methionine is more than, "just a dietary supplement".

    Chris

    What is it then? Curious minds want to know [​IMG]
     
  6. Chris09

    Chris09 Circle (M) Ranch

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    Methionine;

    Methionine is an essential and first limiting amino acid required to sustain life and growth in poultry. Methionine deficiency leads to poor F.C.R., retarded growth in chickens, reduced egg production in layers and breeders beside weakness, poor feathering and immune-suppression. All poultry feed Mfg. are required to post the amount of Methionine and Lysine that is in there feed on there feed tag.

    Amino acids;
    Amino acids play central roles both as building blocks of proteins and as intermediates in metabolism. The 21 amino acids that are found within proteins convey a vast array of chemical versatility. The precise amino acid content, and the sequence of those amino acids, of a specific protein, is determined by the sequence of the bases in the gene that encodes that protein. The chemical properties of the amino acids of proteins determine the biological activity of the protein. Proteins not only catalyze all (or most) of the reactions in living cells, they control virtually all cellular process. In addition, proteins contain within their amino acid sequences the necessary information to determine how that protein will fold into a three dimensional structure, and the stability of the resulting structure.

    Here are the 21 amino acids that are found within proteins.

    * Alanine
    * Arginine
    * Asparagine
    * Aspartic acid
    * Creatine
    * Cysteine
    * Glutamic acid
    * Glutamine
    * Glycine
    * Histidine
    * Isoleucine
    * Leucine
    * Lysine
    * Methionine
    * Phenylalanine
    * Proline
    * Serine
    * Threonine
    * Tryptophan
    * Tyrosine
    * Valine

    Here is a quick list of common foods/ treats that people give the chickens that is high in Methionine:

    · Cottage cheese (dry) 1,200 mg/cup

    · Cottage cheese (crmd) 854 mg/cup

    · Fish & other seafoods 2,000-3,500 mg/lb

    · Meats 750-2,500 mg/lb · Poultry 1,500-2,000 mg/lb

    · Peanuts, roasted w skin 640 mg/cup

    · Sesame seeds 1,400 mg/cup · Dry, whole lentils 350 mg/cup

    · Eggs 2 g to 3 g of methionine in every 100 g of eggs, making the food among the highest of natural sources for methionine

    · All poultry ranges from 1.5 g to 2 g of methionine per pound of meat, which is higher than beef products, but still less than most fish and seafood products.

    Chris
     
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  7. HorizonSon

    HorizonSon Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I am striving for a corn and soy free diet for myself and all those whom I love and care about... Problem is; that junk is in just about everything [​IMG]
     
  8. CARS

    CARS Chillin' With My Peeps

    Quote:It's in everything because it's cheap and made right here in the good 'ol USA.

    I couldn't imagine what food would cost without these cheap "fillers". Yes, I know I should care more about what I eat [​IMG]
     
  9. Chris09

    Chris09 Circle (M) Ranch

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    Quote:I myself would not consider corn as a filler. A filler to me is would be something with no nutritional value.
    Corn has a good deal of nutritional value to it. Corn has Protein (amino acids), Fat, Fiber, Vitamins, Minerals and Trace minerals.

    Corn is the widely used as a Energy Sources. Also, milo, wheat, barley, and oats are being used, but, perhaps, inferior to corn in the relative value.

    Corn -

    Dry Matter (DM) - 88
    Total Digestible Nutrients (TDN) - 88
    Net Energy (NE^m) - 98
    Net Energy (NE^g) - 65
    Net Energy (NE^l) - 91
    Crude Protein (CP) - 9
    Crude Fiber (CF) - 2
    Ash - 2
    Calcium (Ca) - .02
    Phosphorus (P) - .30
    Potassium (K) - .04


    Chris
     
  10. chkinut

    chkinut Chillin' With My Peeps

    Feb 25, 2010
    Leesburg, Ohio
    well thanks to all of you for the informative info! i was just confused about the corn issue cuz people say not to give our girls too much scratch....but like domesticgoddess says, the Layena has other nutritive things in it that scratch doesn't have. and thank you to Chris for all the details. i will definitely re-read that....very informative. and i feel MUCH better about the Methionine too..... i don't know what i'd do without my BYC friends!
     

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