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Is this considered a pip?

Discussion in 'Incubating & Hatching Eggs' started by annmarie33, Oct 18, 2015.

  1. annmarie33

    annmarie33 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I am already concerned with these eggs- I have 3. They are pullet eggs. I hatched pullet eggs last month perfectly fine but these are extra small. These could be her first 3 eggs or she could have stopped laying once the other heb went broody. I had 2 hens and was getting 12 eggs a week- I thought they were both laying. Then when the one hen went broody no eggs until a few days before the chicks were born. These eggs are skinny and small. Bantam eggs are already small but these are the smallest I've had. The only reason I incubated was bc she got killed by our puppy. We loved her and I wanted to give her eggs a chance.
    I know about small pullet eggs not hatching or needing assistance so I am already wanting to help. It's day 20 at 1 pm. My last batch they hatched early at day 18-19. These are internally pipped and there are cracks in the shell. This one a piece of shell is off but not the membrane. Is this a pip? The other is a circle crack and a crack in the circle pushing out a little but not a clean break. I'm just wondering when to start the pip clock of 24 hours of no progress to help if I need to
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  2. annmarie33

    annmarie33 Chillin' With My Peeps

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  3. annmarie33

    annmarie33 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    This start of pip is on the top line. This air cell is ilted to the side. Is this a pip or do you need to see the membrane break?
     
  4. annmarie33

    annmarie33 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Ok since my humidity is on 75 I opened the bator and looked at the one with the missing piece of shell. It is in the vein part and not in the air cell. So I guess this guy is just moving around a lot in there. No pip so far but alive and moving. The others shell is broken in the air cell but I can't hear chirping or see any movement so maybe it's resting right now. Ahh I can't sleep!
     
  5. annmarie33

    annmarie33 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    The second egg made more progress with the hole but still didn't get through the membrane. I could see its beak and broke the membrane, moistened it with a q tip and out it back. The one with the shell piece missing that's nkt in the air sac still looks the same. There is a tiny crack going from it to the air cell but I can't see its beak. The other one I can see its beak right at the shell in the air cell so I hope it pips soon. How long should I wait to help if no progress on the pips? I read that with smaller pullet eggs sometimes they can't zip
     
  6. annmarie33

    annmarie33 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Ok the first egg that had a pip between 6-10 pm last night hasn't made any progress. I helped it by taking off the cracked shell pieces and breaking the membrane more. When do you think I need to help? The egg is so tiny and I'm worried it is stuck and can't zip. This evening will be 24 hours since pip. It is chirping a lot and not really trying to get out just breathing and chirping loudly [​IMG]
     
  7. annmarie33

    annmarie33 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I checked it and pulled back the membrane a little more and there are still lots of blood veins so I just wrapped it in a damp paper towel and will leave it alone hopefully until the morning. Not ready yet so I guess just resting and absorbing the yolk etc. the whole small egg thing has me worried but they all pipped where they should so they will probably be fine
     
  8. napdognewfie

    napdognewfie Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Don't touch if you see blood veins. It's not ready. Peeping helps them absorb the yolk.
     
  9. annmarie33

    annmarie33 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Nothing to worry about afterall! The one guy hatched overnight and the other egg that hadn't really pipped get popped, zipped and hatched in less than 8 hours! The other with the shell piece missing is still resting after pip. There was some yellow by the pip it hadn't all the way made a hole. I had read your supposed to help if you see that. So I opened the pip to where the beak was exposed and now just letting it rest and hatch itself
     
  10. AmyLynn2374

    AmyLynn2374 Humidity Queen

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    Generally no, officially humidity doesn't differ from breed to breed, but I'd like to place a disclamer here and say I have heard that BCMs and darker shelled eggs have a tendancy to not loose moisture as well during the first 17 days. As for hatching humidity, no. I use 75% (ish) to hatch because I often open the bator at hatch time and I achieve this by filling my wells and adding a couple wet sponges in my bator.
     

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