Is this respiratory? or something else??

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by lovinchicks, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. lovinchicks

    lovinchicks Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I had a pullet come down with a swollen face, breathing just sounded loud if you put your ear next to her head. No discharge in nose or eyes. She died 3 days later because she wasn't eating or drinking,

    While that one was sick, I noticed a roo was a bit puffed up, and breathing fast and heavy. Breathing sounded loud when you put your ear next to his head. No discharge, and no swollen face. He is still alive, but is getting weak, and I think food and water are not his friends anymore.

    After the 1st died, another pullet was puffy, and not acting lively, so we brought her into the house too. She breathed loud if you put your head by hers. She also had no discharge, no swollen face. She has also died.

    I took a fecal sample to the vet. One from the roo, and one from chickens that are next to these guys cage. I guess I brought more of a urine poop from the sick one and they said nothing was in it. (doesn't that figure) The sample that came from the next cage over, they found rouindworms, and cecal worms. The chickens that are in the pen with the sick chickens were able to reach the water, and drink out of it. even though the water is raised someone always managed to get poop in their. So they likely have worms in the pen the sick chickens came from, from drinking that water.

    The sick ones are all cream legbars.I don't want to cull the rooser if I don't have to. But I also don't want a carrier to be put back in with the others. If they had some kind of discharge, that would make it easier. But with none, it leaves me uncertain. As of now no other chickens seem to be getting sick. I'm not sure if I should be treating for something or if it respiratory. Someone please help, lol.

    As a side note, the vet I took the fecal samples to will not see chickens. I called another vet in the area that I know will see chickens. I asked how much to do a fecal. She said $50 dollars. I almost fell over!! I would have already been at $100 with doing two fecals. So unfortunatly I'm not rich enough to take the bird to this vet. I told my son, when he grows up, he needs to become a vet that will see chickens!!
     
  2. ChickensAreSweet

    ChickensAreSweet Heavenly Grains for Hens

    http://www.amerpoultryassn.com/respiratory_disease.htm
    here is a link with incubation periods if that helps

    Sounds like a respiratory disease to me but I am no expert. The way to find out for sure would be a necropsy. You can contact your state veterinarian or county extension agent I have read.
     
  3. dawg53

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    It might be best to worm all your chickens. This is how other problems usually begins, including respiratory issues; worms weaken a chickens immune system, the bird literally starves to death. Then, all types of diseases invade the chickens system causing all kinds of problems due to the immunodefiency caused by worms and their feces if there's an infestation of worms
    Once all your birds are wormed initially, reworm them again in 10 days to kill larva/adults hatched from eggs missed by the initial worming.
    Once they are all wormed, give them probios or buttermilk mixed with scrambled eggs to rebuild the chickens strength and immune system. I'm not convinced you're dealing with a respiratory problem since there arnt any symptoms as you mentioned.
    I recommend using valbazen cattle/sheep wormer or safeguard liquid goat wormer to treat your birds for worms. Dosage for either product is 1/2cc given orally undiluted for standard size birds, 1/4cc for smaller size birds. Repeat dosing in 10 days. There's a 14 day withdrawal period after the last dosing for either wormer.
     
  4. lovinchicks

    lovinchicks Chillin' With My Peeps

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    will those wormers kill both kinds of worms. And will this do in the sick chicken. Should I give antibiotics before I worm him?
     
  5. dawg53

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    Both wormers will kill the 2 types of worms you mentioned as well as other types of worms. Both are very safe wormers, however, depending how sick your chicken is, the extra stress put on her system could possibly overwhelm her and cause death. If you dont worm her, she'll get weaker and die anyway...darned if you do, darned if you dont. Eliminate the cause first (worms,) then give probiotics, then if necessary use an antibiotic such as tylan 50 injectable. Your other option would be to cull if it's a respiratory disease because you dont want it spreading through your flock.
     
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  6. lovinchicks

    lovinchicks Chillin' With My Peeps

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    thanks! Off to go see what I can find at the good ole' TSC.
     

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