Jody(hinkjc), gotta lav question...please :) (or others with lav exp)

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by klf73, Jan 9, 2009.

  1. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
    Maine
    I know you used an orp type roo for your lav orp project. My question is, how many generations did it take to get a visual lav from the lav x black? Do you mind sharing? Thank you [​IMG]
     
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  2. hinkjc

    hinkjc Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    You can get visual lavender offspring in as little as 6 months. For example, if you hatch chicks from a lav X black pair and raise their young to laying age (approx 6 mos), then take the offspring back to a lav parent, you have visual lavenders.
     
  3. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

    Jun 1, 2008
    Maine
    Thanks for the response! How do you improve the type since you are using a "breed type" lav. Do you just take your best visual lav roo and breed them back to the original blacks? I was trying to plan something and like to get it all on paper before I start. Of course I can't start until I get one of your lav orp roo culls [​IMG] . Thanks again!
     
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  4. hinkjc

    hinkjc Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    Krista, I just noticed your response. I apologize for not getting back to you sooner.

    My breed type lav Lester, is not as difficult to work with because he is close to standard. He already has most of the bloodline I am looking for to work with in my orpington project and fits the bill perfectly. If anyone would like to discuss his heritage more, I would be happy to share more details via PM.

    To bring in genes from another breed, it is not as easy to accomplish, but with enough hatching and heavy culling, you can accomplish a lot quickly. Once you bring the gene in, you will have to be very selective on who to continue with. This may not always be noticeable until you do some test hatching to see the results. I hope this is helpful.
     
  5. L&Schickens

    L&Schickens Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jun 9, 2008
    Washington State
    Ho do you get Lavender to begin with? I would love to try this with my Jersey Giants. I have black, splash and white for colors.
     
  6. hinkjc

    hinkjc Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    You have to introduce the lavender (self blue) gene. It is not the same as andalusian blue, black or splash, so your birds probably wouldn't work. Typically you'll have to use a breed that carries the gene to introduce it, then cull for the breed type you're working on.
     
  7. Chickndaddy

    Chickndaddy Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 26, 2007
    East Texas
    I believe you could cross a lavender onto one of your Black Jersey Giants, but not with your Splash or Blue. The Blue Gene and the Lavender Gene are different. I can't think of a true large fowl breed available in the US other than Orpingtons that you could start the cross with though, and they certainly aren't readily available. I don't even think I've seen any Cochins or Wyandottes in large fowl, although a few people have them in bantam. You would be in for a lot of work if crossed a bantam into the Giants like an OEGB or d'Anvers. Oh my, just think of the work involved just to cross them...lol
     
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  8. jkpnelly

    jkpnelly Out Of The Brooder

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    [​IMG]
     
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  9. jkpnelly

    jkpnelly Out Of The Brooder

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    Thanks for answering my questions.
     
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  10. wilds of pa

    wilds of pa Chillin' With My Peeps

    jkpnelly, you got project lavender orps to work with... [​IMG]
    His NOT from the UK..

    charlie
     
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