I just picked up some birds from a old man here in town while visiting my parents. They are all bobwhite quail. I wanted to try my luck with them and see how they do for me, I am going to get some coturnix quail next week maybe too. These I got today I got 9 females and 3 males. The old man didn't really seem to know much, its a wonder how he hatches and keeps them alive. He had about 15-20 per cage that was about 2ftx3ft and 8 inches tall... they were over crowded. Their feathers are roughed up some, not too too bad though. They didn't seem to fight much though, so no problems there yet. Heres where my kicker comes in... He said he hatched them in june or july of this year... so they are 5-6 months old. He hasn't been getting any eggs out of them though. BUT BUT he didn't take real good care of them. He didn't keep a light on them. They were kept in a shed with one window in it so that's all the light they got during the day time only. There were no lamps or anything to keep them a little warmer than whatever temp it is outside... he fed them wild game bird feed and milo... never added any crushed oyster shells or nothing to food. They were basically getting just enough attention to live. I have a feeling that these birds should be laying by this age, and with a whole lot better living conditions, good feed, A LIGHT ON THEM, and heat lamp to keep my cages area in my shed at a more decent tempature these birds will probably start to produce and start looking better... I don't know much as this is my first shot as playing with quail, but I have a feeling that I can get them into better shape and make them happier birds... They seem to be pretty lively. Once I got them into my cage and got them some food and water and stuff they seemed to calm down a whole lot more than when they were in the cages at the guys place I bought them. They are looking a lot more relaxed and acting much tamer. I'm sure they are nervous and stressed a little from being moved around a little, but they are acting better already. I guess you can say I feel like I pretty much rescued some trouble birds haha. We will see what happens though. Anything else anyone think I could do to get this birds breeding and laying quicker? I'm about to put a sand bath box under the light for them to play in and lay in, hopefully the light will warm up the sand a little as it is cooler down here in texas right now..