I've tried to find the answer to this with no success. Here's the scenario: we have several flocks of birds. We also have 5 young kids ranging in age from 10 down to 6 mos. My kids' show birds (bantams) are all kept in enclosed, movable coops and locked up at night. We also have a free-range laying flock (mostly large fowl plus ducks) fenced with electric predator fencing and locked up securely every night. Yesterday we suffered our first hawk loss, a free-range bantam. I am very aware that if we free range we can expect to lose a bird once in a while, so the kids are not supposed to name or get (too) attached to them (ha). I feel like it's worth the risk so long as it's an occasional occurrence, not a regular one, and I'm hoping that this hawk might just be interested in the few bantams and leave my big girls and ducks alone in favor of the THOUSANDS of squirrels around here. So, like many others, I am considering flock protection in the form of geese or turkeys. That said, my kids love their birds and love to bring them treats, check for eggs, etc., as well as hauling water to the ducks and doing the lion's share of the poultry care chores. (The kids start competing in showmanship at 6 and are also 4-Hers so they do know how to behave around poultry!) I have had too many sketchy experiences with LF roos -- I've had to re-home 2 now -- to risk one of my littles getting a spur in the face or being terrorized when they go out to do their chores. I've read in several places that Tom turkeys and ganders will discourage hawks, but I'd really rather not have aggressive males around during breeding season. What are some large bird options that are also relatively kid-friendly? Is it simply the size of the bird that is a deterrent? Or is it the willingness of the males to actually go after a hawk attacking the girls? Are males better at alerting the flock to danger than, say, a turkey hen or a female goose? I've been thinking of Sebastopol geese, who are supposed to be especially docile, but man, are they pricey! Dave Holderread recommends Embden for flock protection but I know they are not temperamentally suited to kids and are way too big. I wonder if a turkey hen would alert the flock of anything overhead. We are not willing to get a guardian dog at the moment. We do have a wonderful English Shepherd and I think he would go after anything attacking the birds, but when we put up the electric fence we also effectively fenced him out. The birds range in a young orchard so a goat/sheep/donkey/llama is not an option as they would eat my baby trees. The kids and I did take a break from morning lessons to throw CDs on the roofs of the chicken and duck houses, and to build several little "branch shelters" for the hens to scoot under if a hawk threatens and they are too far from the coop. Advice please?