Killing Chickens in Town

Discussion in 'Local Chicken Laws & Ordinances (and how to change' started by elizabethbinary, Jan 2, 2011.

  1. elizabethbinary

    elizabethbinary Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 22, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Sorry if this is in the wrong place but I had a choice and both fit! [​IMG]

    I want to get a kill over with. To date my husband has killed all the poultry necessary but it's my turn, y'know? Currently I don't have any in my flock that I need/want culling and I'm thinking about getting some of those Craigslist roosters like that one smart woman here. Of course this means I would have to kill them at home. I mentioned those places you have where you pay $2-3 a bird to have it done, but my husband had no idea what I was talking about.

    The laws here aren't particularly strict - I've spoken to the council and I quite possibly have the most 'couldn't give a blank' council in the world. As long as I don't get complaints - I'm good. However my husband seems to think I'll get complaints. The council did say that while they're aware I'm over my limit on my flock, they won't do anything about it unless someone complains about the noise. Which my husband says I will get A LOT of if I kill. I don't know, I was never around when he did it. My husband thinks the noise alone will be enough to get us reported - and of course culling is a lot more illegal than just overlimit - but you know what happens when they report one thing... (the punishment if caught would be loss of about 1/3rd my flock and possibly a small fine)

    I was thinking of going the 4 hour drive to the farm and if mother lets me kill on her property I can give her a few cleaned chooks in return for the materials/space. My only problem with this is the legalities are INSANE on this one. I even feel nervous posting about it! But if you kill on a commercial farm (which this is) you cannot take the meat off the property unless certain things are followed. It's not so bad the family farm would lose their licencing or anything - but the fines are hefty. In the tens of thousands. Of course my chances of getting caught doing it here are slim to none. Getting the appropriate licencing to take it off the farm would be more money than the chickens are worth after a 4 hour drive.

    So since I don't want to risk my husband's family having legal problems or losing my flock to a noise complaint - I don't know what to do about acquiring meat more frequently. We just normally have to wait for the farm butcher to kill things to get it all together (the farm butcher is allowed to take meat off the farm property but not us, so he can sell it back once he's ready and we can take it off... mmm yes... the price is a little steep, about $2 a kilo ($1 a pound) under the price of grocery chicken).


    I guess what I'm basically asking is... is there a way to get licencing to kill in town on your own property? Is there a way to cover the noise if you do decide to sneak a home kill? Do you think I can find a local non-commercial farm that'll let me use their property (maybe in return for having their flock culled and prepped for them as well? like farm work in return for farm use?).

    I love love love my fresh chicken when I can get it - and buying it from the shops, no matter how good the butcher, just doesn't compare. I'd really like to find a way to regularly kill my own so I can keep my family in a large supply of meat. And so I can get this first kill out of the way - something I have GOT to do.

    Would you just sneak it on the family farm? [​IMG] [​IMG] Please don't tattle on me!
     
  2. booker81

    booker81 Redneck Tech Girl

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    I handle all my CL roos [​IMG] in the garage now (used to do them outside, but it's COLD here now!)

    The only noise they make other than standard chicken noises (crowing etc) when it's dispatch time is wing flapping. I've not had one yet make any sort of vocal noise. It's over in a minute too. I contain everything by lowering them into a large bucket with a garbage bag in it, so they can flap in there and it keeps the blood contained.

    Learn from me though - don't putz around and leave 5 of them crated (with water and some food) overnight. You'll have crowing wars from 5am on, they set my two boys off too. Nonstop crowing. For hours. (Everyone has their own crate, I'm not down with strange rooster fighting - but they still like to crow over each other!)
     
  3. elizabethbinary

    elizabethbinary Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 22, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Quote:Okay this makes me feel heaps better!! I also think my husband kills in a slightly less than un-noisy way. I want to use the cone but the boy just says to use a wooden board and an axe... well no wonder it's loud!

    I'd prefer to do it in town to risk myself and not others, so your post really encourages me to try! Thank you! [​IMG]

    I was thinking of doing the rooster gather in the morning and the kill in the afternoon, so the roos wouldn't even be around a day.
     
  4. LarryPQ

    LarryPQ Easter Hatch!!

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    I guess what I'm basically asking is... is there a way to get licencing to kill in town on your own property? Is there a way to cover the noise if you do decide to sneak a home kill? Do you think I can find a local non-commercial farm that'll let me use their property (maybe in return for having their flock culled and prepped for them as well? like farm work in return for farm use?).

    If they state doesnt have specific processing laws, there is no reason you can't do it on your own property. If you break the neck first, there will be no noise during the processing portion.

    My city has rules on the processing of farm animals--mammals specifically. Lots must be 10,000+ square feet in size to process a goat or whatever. No restrictions on fowl.

    HOWEVER- if you were doing more than processing your own flock for your own use, you WOULD get shut down. Food handling/processing laws would immediately kick in.​
     
  5. Moabite

    Moabite Chillin' With My Peeps

    Feb 24, 2010
    Utah
    It has been a long time since I've seen a chicken slaughtered but a quick twist of the neck or a hatchet and stump don't seem like it would be too noisy. Am I missing something here? It is illegal to slaughter chickens in town here too.

    Just blame it on the dog [​IMG]
     
  6. elizabethbinary

    elizabethbinary Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 22, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Quote:If they state doesnt have specific processing laws, there is no reason you can't do it on your own property. If you break the neck first, there will be no noise during the processing portion.

    My city has rules on the processing of farm animals--mammals specifically. Lots must be 10,000+ square feet in size to process a goat or whatever. No restrictions on fowl.

    HOWEVER- if you were doing more than processing your own flock for your own use, you WOULD get shut down. Food handling/processing laws would immediately kick in.

    Oh definitely not selling or giving away! The state doesn't have specific processing laws perse, but they do ask that slaughter is not done in housing areas - which I live in. If I were more rural, it would be okay. (and by 'more rural' if I freakin lived FOUR STREETS away, it would be legal!)

    So thanks!!

    Snapping the neck is a good idea. [​IMG] I worry I won't do it proper so I'll research it really well first.
     
  7. elizabethbinary

    elizabethbinary Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 22, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Quote:You know what... I think I can actually do that........ [​IMG]

    You girls are awesome!!! (Women, ladies, chicks!)

    Edit: I should also say I'm getting a bit concerned about how my husband might kill chickens if he's getting a whole heap of noise and none of you are!! maybe I should just kill them myself from now on so I can make sure it's done nicely! Men!
     
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  8. magoochie

    magoochie Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:First, where are you living that the laws are that strict?
    Second, are the people on Craigslist selling the chickens to be butchered? If so, can you just kill them there, throw them in the back of the truck and clean them at home?
    Third, how are you planning on killing them that it will make alot of noise?
     
  9. elizabethbinary

    elizabethbinary Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 22, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Quote:First, where are you living that the laws are that strict?
    Second, are the people on Craigslist selling the chickens to be butchered? If so, can you just kill them there, throw them in the back of the truck and clean them at home?
    Third, how are you planning on killing them that it will make alot of noise?

    First: Brisbane Australia - are you referring to the commercial laws? The local laws seem pretty mild to me (I DO live in Suburbia... I'm talking housewives with pearls and men with ride-on mowers for their lawn) for town but the family farm is a commercial farm so the laws are pretty strict on that.

    Second: I'm not actually going to use craigslist but yes they are giving them away to be slaughtered or 'whatever'... but 99% won't let me do it there because the ones that give them away 'for whatever' don't want to KNOW it was for food. No joke. If I kill them, they ask me not to tell them about it.... they want to pretend it has a nice roost in my home instead of my stomach...

    Third: I was just planning on coning and cutting with a sharp knife to remove the head. My husband uses an axe - so his method is probably the noise he was referring to.
     
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  10. elizabethbinary

    elizabethbinary Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 22, 2010
    Brisbane, Australia
    Okay here's my new plan of attack, tell me what you all think:

    At 5am I will setup the garage with tarps and everything for the processing. Between the hours of 6-10 (after "normal" crowing hours) I will drive around gathering the culls for eating from all the local hobby farms. I will put them in a big dark box in the boot (trunk) of my car and bring the box immediately to the killing area. I will take ONE out at a time, leaving them in there (probably 5-10 total) and put it in the cone and do the cut. Then I'll have my husband clean them as I do the rest.

    I'm thinking this should make virtually no noise, take only a day and be fairly quick.

    I'm also taking away my husband's axe.

    (sorry my browser keeps timing out for some reason)
     
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