Large squishy crop- not sour smelling and eventually reduces in size

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by pwiddy, Jun 12, 2011.

  1. pwiddy

    pwiddy New Egg

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    Hi all,

    Any help would be appreciated. I'm very new to chickens, just picked up my very first chickens a week ago, so i apologise if this has been discussed many times before.

    1) What type of bird , age and weight. Ex bat isa brown. 18 months. now just 1.8kg [​IMG]
    2) What is the behavior, exactly. i only just picked up my 2 hens (very first hens) a week ago. i noticed Wednesday that one had a very large and hard crop that wasn't going down. She was also doing bright green poo. i wormed them on Friday (aristopet poultry wormer.) When i checked at lunchtime friday the crop was normal but when i returned 4 hours later is was swelled up like a huge balloon but it was soft and not rock hard like before. Since then it has been swelling, reducing then swelling again- but never down to normal crop size. It's almost like a tiny bit can get through, but not everything. The crop is still big in the morning & there is no bad smell.
    3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms? rock hard crop i guess from when we first got her last Sunday. Soft full crop since Friday
    4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms? no
    5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma. no
    6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation. not sure- ex bat hen.
    7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all. Normally layer pellets and organic mash with veggie scraps and shell grit. Since Friday i have been giving her small amounts of soaked layer pellets. She is acting like nothing is wrong and is very happy to eat and eat and eat
    8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc. Green and runny. Today it was slightly more yellow than green and slightly more solid
    9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?
    1. olive oil and massage every 2 hours since friday night (except for when chooks are in bed)
    2. went to vet on Saturday- given antibiotics and anti inflammitory. Also given 4x antibiotics and anti inflam to give once a day for the next four days
    3. today i started to mix in some probiotic in with the layer pellets and put ACV in the drinking water. Only giving small, supervised amounts
    10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet? Already been to a vet but i'm not convinced they know what they're doing. I would like to know:
    1. the wormer seemed to have worked the first time- could it be possible that they needed more of it? it says on the pack just to give for up to 8 hours so that's all i did.
    2. should i go to the vet and insist they flush out the crop? I'm confused as to if it is sour crop since it's not sour. There is no way i'm capable of making her regurgitate myself as she's far too wriggly and being my first chooks i'm not competent enough.
    11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.
    12) Describe the housing/bedding in use: until today i put straw and shavings in. Today i removed the shavings and put in towels in their roost.

    I'm very concerned as she has no fat left on her at all. I imagine this problem has been going on a while without anyone noticing.
    My apologies if this is sour crop with has been discussed a million times before- i'm just concerned as it does seem to very slowly empty out and there is no sour smell.

    Thank you very much for taking the time to read this.
     
  2. tellynpeep

    tellynpeep Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Is the crop constantly swollen up like this or only sometimes? Is she otherwise eating and acting like a chicken?. It's possible she just drank a lot of water after eating and had soft crop contents for a while. Sometimes my girls do this, but it eventually goes down. What medications did your vet give and did they explain why? Does your vet see many chickens? Good luck with your girls; it sounds like they are lucky to have found you!
     
  3. Chickengal505

    Chickengal505 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Clam down [​IMG] If their eating laying pellets, take about a hand full and put it in a bowl. Mix with half a cup of warm water and stir every few minutes. This is whats happening in your hen. It's completey normal [​IMG] What kind of food are they eating? hmmmmm just read the part about the crop being really hard.... could be what they where eating.... next time it's like that make shure to let us know as that could be a big problem [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  4. tellynpeep

    tellynpeep Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Yes. And my girls' crops get really hard in the evening as they gorge on pellets just before going to roost for the night. Not a problem either unless it persists :)
     
  5. pwiddy

    pwiddy New Egg

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    Thanks for the replies. My apologies, I didn't explain things very well.
    When the crop was hard it was exactly the same size at night & in the morning- nothing was getting through. Now that I wormed her it is soft but still large- last night it was the size of an egg, this morning it was the size of a golf ball but soft.
    Her poo is green. Prior to the worming it was bright green and mainly just water passing through and now it's dark green and more solid. Except for right after I give her the antibiotics, then it's yellow diarrhea.
    She is otherwise acting like the other girl. I've restricted her so that she can't walk around the yard but when I'm cleaning out her cage I let her out for a minute and she scratches around and seems happy.
    I went to the best vet I know but she's not a poultry expert, she mainly does seabirds. She gave me the meds because it's clear that something is blocking the passage of most of the food. She's just skin & bones [​IMG]
    And to clarify what I was feeding her- layer mash the first few days then mash & pellets but they largely ignored the pellets. Now she's just on small rations of soaks pellets.
     

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